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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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No one answered it yet so, the reason for hatches being popular is: aerodynamics.

At least, that's what I've heard/read. Though it could also have something to do with weight balancing.

PS: New Top Gear tonight FTMFW
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
No one answered it yet so, the reason for hatches being popular is: aerodynamics.

At least, that's what I've heard/read. Though it could also have something to do with weight balancing.

PS: New Top Gear tonight FTMFW
i think they are better in rally, shorter body, and lighter vs the sedan body.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick Mok
Just to keep things quick, launch controller systems do not involved with the transmission as far as the systems that I am aware of. This is just for factual information.

As for saying the point about relating racing and road and the Nissan potential failure due to the lack of particular experience in terms of rally, all I have to say is this: Mitsubishi have years and successful experiences behind the Lancer Evolution, yet the Evolution's transmission is infamously notorious incline at failing. Evident, the Evolution X as many members in the forums has experienced premature clutch failure. The general consensus is that clutch capability is unexpectedly short. The earlier Evolutions face with highly complicated transmission systems that are prone to failure. This trend is likely to continue regardless the amount of racing experience Mitsubishi has gathered in the short term.
Patrick, You have conviently "changed horses in mid-stream". We were talking about launch control in the R35 GTR vs X's MR and that record stands: GTR failed and MR did/does not.
Now I am confused about your new directions. You talk about the EVO's tranny is "infamously notorius incline [inclined]at [to] failing [failure]" and then, as evidence, you say "many members ... [on EVOM] ... experienced premature clutch failure". This connection of statements makes no sence. The clutch failures, to which you refer, have nothing to do with tranny failures for one and for another, there havn't been any. Yes, there have been clutch burn outs due to driver errors and the addition of whp way past OEM ~220whp. Please tell me your source(s) where the X's tranny has failed in OEM trim.

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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Sorry, I am going to keep this brief.

My previous comments are on the correlation with motorsports technology and road-going products, which might be a potential explanation or the incomplete reason of GTR R35's failure and the success of Evo X MR with the launch control.

As for X's transmission failure in OEM trim, there are posts in this forums about clutch slippage. Yes, the cause could be of driver errors.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick Mok
Sorry, I am going to keep this brief.

My previous comments are on the correlation with motorsports technology and road-going products, which might be a potential explanation or the incomplete reason of GTR R35's failure and the success of Evo X MR with the launch control.

As for X's transmission failure in OEM trim, there are posts in this forums about clutch slippage. Yes, the cause could be of driver errors.
Patrick, Thank you for agreeing that the X's transmission is NOT "infamously notorius incline [inclined]at [to] failing [failure]" and that there is no link whatsoever between the cited clutch failures and the X's transmission.

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Sorry, my statement was directed towards the transmission problem that plagued numerious Evolution generations, including the Evo X.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick Mok
Sorry, my statement was directed towards the transmission problem that plagued numerious Evolution generations, including the Evo X.
Patrick, these comments, now have me completely lost!

Later, Ken
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Top flight WRC, Not going to happen any time soon to much $$.


I'm pulling for P-WRC (Group N) anyway, Real cars that most of us have & enjoy & drive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDEXaqVY-Rs#


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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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My apologies if my comments are confusing.

GrpN is where the excitement is at and a reachable dream for most rally enthusiasts.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick Mok
My apologies if my comments are confusing.

GrpN is where the excitement is at and a reachable dream for most rally enthusiasts.
that is sooooo true. And the group A or A8
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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no the "evolution x " isnt a real evo
Then why is it destroying the lap times of the "faster" 8's and 9's that had more horsepower?
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Then why is it destroying the lap times of the "faster" 8's and 9's that had more horsepower?
Not that agree with him... But he never said that it (the X) wasn't faster. Just that it wasn't a real "evolution." Likely based on not having the 4G63 motor or some other crap like that.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TOMMY B
Top flight WRC, Not going to happen any time soon to much $$.


I'm pulling for P-WRC (Group N) anyway, Real cars that most of us have & enjoy & drive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDEXaqVY-Rs#


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this is pretty exciting! can't wait to see it perform. Although he (chinese man) said that the car is heavyer due to the engine... didnt mitsu said the the engine is actually lighter than the 4g63t?? well either way this is pretty good i really hope it can outrun the 9s and/or 8s
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Not that agree with him... But he never said that it (the X) wasn't faster. Just that it wasn't a real "evolution." Likely based on not having the 4G63 motor or some other crap like that.
Ahhh... i guess there could be some logic stashed somewhere is that statement.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Not that agree with him... But he never said that it (the X) wasn't faster. Just that it wasn't a real "evolution." Likely based on not having the 4G63 motor or some other crap like that.
that is why they call it evolution.
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