No 2009 Evo X for the USA. Confirmed by multiple sources within Mitsubishi.
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hey guys, the mod who started this thread appears to be certain that there will be 09 so the stuff in the last few posts, which is what i had written before about dealers saying that there will be no 09, is appearently called TROLLING,
just wanted to bring that to your attention.
my take, my humble opinion, (hypothetical) is that if, and its a big IF at that, is that if there were no 09, or if it were to come out toward end of year, dealers have still more time to sit on the 08s and sell them; in that situation, Mitsu will probably not put any significant rebates on the 08s until summer time.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
just wanted to bring that to your attention.
my take, my humble opinion, (hypothetical) is that if, and its a big IF at that, is that if there were no 09, or if it were to come out toward end of year, dealers have still more time to sit on the 08s and sell them; in that situation, Mitsu will probably not put any significant rebates on the 08s until summer time.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
hey guys, the mod who started this thread appears to be certain that there will be 09 so the stuff in the last few posts, which is what i had written before about dealers saying that there will be no 09, is appearently called TROLLING,
just wanted to bring that to your attention.
my take, my humble opinion, (hypothetical) is that if, and its a big IF at that, is that if there were no 09, or if it were to come out toward end of year, dealers have still more time to sit on the 08s and sell them; in that situation, Mitsu will probably not put any significant rebates on the 08s until summer time.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
just wanted to bring that to your attention.
my take, my humble opinion, (hypothetical) is that if, and its a big IF at that, is that if there were no 09, or if it were to come out toward end of year, dealers have still more time to sit on the 08s and sell them; in that situation, Mitsu will probably not put any significant rebates on the 08s until summer time.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
I really like the Evo X, but it is NOT a 40k+ car no matter which way you want to slice it.
i respect your opinion, but in my opinion i would say you are a low-baller. Base Evo GSR can be had for about 28,500 (lowest i found in TN) how is that 40K+???
this car has so much more to offer than the VIII or a IX yet its not price that much higher than they were when new. Its definitely competitive with STI pricing/more attractive IMO.
you might get a deal on a leftover 08 X over next 2-4 months but i would not bet on getting one on the 09 or 10, whichever year comes after this. Even with USD devaluation against YEN, MSRP should (not saying it will) go up by about 2000-3000.
we have become so accustomed to being CHEAP in the US, move to europe or japan and you will be paying 40+K for a base GSR, and up to 80K or more for a FQ version in UK
my suggestion is get a good deal on a slightly used 08 X or sit for a couple of months and hope that Mitsu will throw 1000-2000 instant rebate on new 08. Other than that, you might be waiting a long time (like forever) because if these cars are not selling, rather than make more of them/charge less and loose money, Mitsu will stop selling them in US and call it a day
this car has so much more to offer than the VIII or a IX yet its not price that much higher than they were when new. Its definitely competitive with STI pricing/more attractive IMO.
you might get a deal on a leftover 08 X over next 2-4 months but i would not bet on getting one on the 09 or 10, whichever year comes after this. Even with USD devaluation against YEN, MSRP should (not saying it will) go up by about 2000-3000.
we have become so accustomed to being CHEAP in the US, move to europe or japan and you will be paying 40+K for a base GSR, and up to 80K or more for a FQ version in UK
my suggestion is get a good deal on a slightly used 08 X or sit for a couple of months and hope that Mitsu will throw 1000-2000 instant rebate on new 08. Other than that, you might be waiting a long time (like forever) because if these cars are not selling, rather than make more of them/charge less and loose money, Mitsu will stop selling them in US and call it a day
Theses cars are overpriced from the get go... then factor in all the BS about the new model yr coming in, whether it is the 09's or 10's. The cars have to be discounted to sell... IMHO 8-9K + 0%. One needs to get a base GSR for 26-27K and a base MR for about 30K.
I really like the Evo X, but it is NOT a 40k+ car no matter which way you want to slice it.
I really like the Evo X, but it is NOT a 40k+ car no matter which way you want to slice it.
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my take, my humble opinion, (hypothetical) is that if, and its a big IF at that, is that if there were no 09, or if it were to come out toward end of year, dealers have still more time to sit on the 08s and sell them; in that situation, Mitsu will probably not put any significant rebates on the 08s until summer time.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant[/QUOTE]
These 08's have been sitting on lots for a year. It's now 2009 and the economy is getting worse every day. The loaded GSR at around 35-37K before tax is not an easy buy in the current market. I'm friendly with a BIG dealer here in NY and they are not selling. When they do get a buyer they often can't write the loan. It's a disaster for the dealers and the cars are aging and losing appeal. I've been tracking several dealer inventories and the Evo's haven't budged.
Come spring they MIGHT move a few, but frankly even a hefty rebate won't move them all. I sell boats and service them at a large boat yard. Most consumers only have a vague concept of how rough high end retail is right now.
This has nothing to do with margins anymore. By spring, which is SOON, those 08's will be OLD cars and very tough to push on the target market. By then everyone will also know the skipped year story and be considering a wait for the 2010.
Long story short: Those 08's will be hard to move even at 32K for a loaded one. I might buy one at that point for cash, but not before I get the story on the 2010. Based on what I'm hearing and reading it seems a lot of folks will wait it out.
I don't want Mitsubishi or the dealers to suffer. They are part of our economy that is in trouble. But I also have to protect my investments carefully these days. A loaded GSR for 35K that is a year old is NOT a good buy as of January, 2009. It IS a great car, just no longer worth the money. The dealers know that already and are waiting for Mitsubishi to help.
I just bought a Outlander XLS (for cash). The dealer HUGGED me. In my various visits to that dealer I didn't see one other car deal go down.
R.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
[/QUOTE]These 08's have been sitting on lots for a year. It's now 2009 and the economy is getting worse every day. The loaded GSR at around 35-37K before tax is not an easy buy in the current market. I'm friendly with a BIG dealer here in NY and they are not selling. When they do get a buyer they often can't write the loan. It's a disaster for the dealers and the cars are aging and losing appeal. I've been tracking several dealer inventories and the Evo's haven't budged.
Come spring they MIGHT move a few, but frankly even a hefty rebate won't move them all. I sell boats and service them at a large boat yard. Most consumers only have a vague concept of how rough high end retail is right now.
This has nothing to do with margins anymore. By spring, which is SOON, those 08's will be OLD cars and very tough to push on the target market. By then everyone will also know the skipped year story and be considering a wait for the 2010.
Long story short: Those 08's will be hard to move even at 32K for a loaded one. I might buy one at that point for cash, but not before I get the story on the 2010. Based on what I'm hearing and reading it seems a lot of folks will wait it out.
I don't want Mitsubishi or the dealers to suffer. They are part of our economy that is in trouble. But I also have to protect my investments carefully these days. A loaded GSR for 35K that is a year old is NOT a good buy as of January, 2009. It IS a great car, just no longer worth the money. The dealers know that already and are waiting for Mitsubishi to help.
I just bought a Outlander XLS (for cash). The dealer HUGGED me. In my various visits to that dealer I didn't see one other car deal go down.
R.
I changed the thread title to accept both opinions.
I hope sblvro is right and I am wrong.
IMO, Mitsu is still weighing its options due to fact that the 08s are not moving. they will either release 09 late this year or skip a year and release 2010 late this year or early next, But until they release a new model year vehicle, even if the manufacturing date is 4/08, its still a new vehicle that you are looking at.
of course to be able to use one of the 2 options and not resorting to extremes and stopping sale of new model year evo X (be it 09,10, or 11) until further notice, they might have to throw some additional cash at these, February 3rd is next time they revise incentives on all of their vehicles. I just think that they might hold of a few more months on the evo, after all its their top of the line car.
This could go either way.
i myself am done waiting for more rebates on the X, just picked up a slightly used one and couldnt be happier
These 08's have been sitting on lots for a year. It's now 2009 and the economy is getting worse every day. The loaded GSR at around 35-37K before tax is not an easy buy in the current market. I'm friendly with a BIG dealer here in NY and they are not selling. When they do get a buyer they often can't write the loan. It's a disaster for the dealers and the cars are aging and losing appeal. I've been tracking several dealer inventories and the Evo's haven't budged.
Come spring they MIGHT move a few, but frankly even a hefty rebate won't move them all. I sell boats and service them at a large boat yard. Most consumers only have a vague concept of how rough high end retail is right now.
This has nothing to do with margins anymore. By spring, which is SOON, those 08's will be OLD cars and very tough to push on the target market. By then everyone will also know the skipped year story and be considering a wait for the 2010.
Long story short: Those 08's will be hard to move even at 32K for a loaded one. I might buy one at that point for cash, but not before I get the story on the 2010. Based on what I'm hearing and reading it seems a lot of folks will wait it out.
I don't want Mitsubishi or the dealers to suffer. They are part of our economy that is in trouble. But I also have to protect my investments carefully these days. A loaded GSR for 35K that is a year old is NOT a good buy as of January, 2009. It IS a great car, just no longer worth the money. The dealers know that already and are waiting for Mitsubishi to help.
I just bought a Outlander XLS (for cash). The dealer HUGGED me. In my various visits to that dealer I didn't see one other car deal go down.
R.[/QUOTE]
of course to be able to use one of the 2 options and not resorting to extremes and stopping sale of new model year evo X (be it 09,10, or 11) until further notice, they might have to throw some additional cash at these, February 3rd is next time they revise incentives on all of their vehicles. I just think that they might hold of a few more months on the evo, after all its their top of the line car.
This could go either way.
i myself am done waiting for more rebates on the X, just picked up a slightly used one and couldnt be happier
my take, my humble opinion, (hypothetical) is that if, and its a big IF at that, is that if there were no 09, or if it were to come out toward end of year, dealers have still more time to sit on the 08s and sell them; in that situation, Mitsu will probably not put any significant rebates on the 08s until summer time.
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
Currently you can get a 08 GSR for about 29.5 and GSR/SSS for about 31.5 so thats not too shabby, (this is east coast) you just have to find a dealer that is willing to dip into their holdback, dealer cash, and of course you have to qualify for the military and/or customer loyalty rebate.
With 0 APR if you are financing, you can save 2-3K over 60 months so i am not sure what else mitsu can do, perhaps give an alternative to that by offering a 2000 instant rebate instead of financing for those who can pay for whole vehicle.
Bottom line is that there is only sooo much profit in a new car and unless you find a very and i mean VERY desperate dealer, you will not be able to get much better pricing than above, unless you are looking at a used X or are trading in another vehicle. However, with trades you get another set of issues you have to deal with in terms of its value.
ok, i think that i said my peace, now i will post and reread my rant
These 08's have been sitting on lots for a year. It's now 2009 and the economy is getting worse every day. The loaded GSR at around 35-37K before tax is not an easy buy in the current market. I'm friendly with a BIG dealer here in NY and they are not selling. When they do get a buyer they often can't write the loan. It's a disaster for the dealers and the cars are aging and losing appeal. I've been tracking several dealer inventories and the Evo's haven't budged.
Come spring they MIGHT move a few, but frankly even a hefty rebate won't move them all. I sell boats and service them at a large boat yard. Most consumers only have a vague concept of how rough high end retail is right now.
This has nothing to do with margins anymore. By spring, which is SOON, those 08's will be OLD cars and very tough to push on the target market. By then everyone will also know the skipped year story and be considering a wait for the 2010.
Long story short: Those 08's will be hard to move even at 32K for a loaded one. I might buy one at that point for cash, but not before I get the story on the 2010. Based on what I'm hearing and reading it seems a lot of folks will wait it out.
I don't want Mitsubishi or the dealers to suffer. They are part of our economy that is in trouble. But I also have to protect my investments carefully these days. A loaded GSR for 35K that is a year old is NOT a good buy as of January, 2009. It IS a great car, just no longer worth the money. The dealers know that already and are waiting for Mitsubishi to help.
I just bought a Outlander XLS (for cash). The dealer HUGGED me. In my various visits to that dealer I didn't see one other car deal go down.
R.[/QUOTE]
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X was to expensive from the start.. now its too late for a small discount they need to cut the price bigtime now...
Pushing back the 09s and 10s will only hurt dealers and the brand but oh well... what can mitsu do..
Pushing back the 09s and 10s will only hurt dealers and the brand but oh well... what can mitsu do..
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It's Important
1) Anyone thinking of dropping 35-40K on a car wants to know as a skipped year hurts resale on 08 models.
2) Waiting a bit might mean a big rebate on a 08 X.
3) The 2010 model might be worth waiting for.
I don't expect the refreshed X to be a HUGE difference, but it's going to go head to head with a refreshed STI. I think it's fair to expect it to have more power and a better interior. I'd say there's even a chance at a 6 speed manual. Worth waiting for? Maybe, maybe not, but buyers still want to know what the choices are.
Cheers,
R.
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1) Anyone thinking of dropping 35-40K on a car wants to know as a skipped year hurts resale on 08 models.
2) Waiting a bit might mean a big rebate on a 08 X.
3) The 2010 model might be worth waiting for.
I don't expect the refreshed X to be a HUGE difference, but it's going to go head to head with a refreshed STI. I think it's fair to expect it to have more power and a better interior. I'd say there's even a chance at a 6 speed manual. Worth waiting for? Maybe, maybe not, but buyers still want to know what the choices are.
Cheers,
R.
2) Waiting a bit might mean a big rebate on a 08 X.
3) The 2010 model might be worth waiting for.
I don't expect the refreshed X to be a HUGE difference, but it's going to go head to head with a refreshed STI. I think it's fair to expect it to have more power and a better interior. I'd say there's even a chance at a 6 speed manual. Worth waiting for? Maybe, maybe not, but buyers still want to know what the choices are.
Cheers,
R.
1) Anyone thinking of dropping 35-40K on a car wants to know as a skipped year hurts resale on 08 models.
2) Waiting a bit might mean a big rebate on a 08 X.
3) The 2010 model might be worth waiting for.
I don't expect the refreshed X to be a HUGE difference, but it's going to go head to head with a refreshed STI. I think it's fair to expect it to have more power and a better interior. I'd say there's even a chance at a 6 speed manual. Worth waiting for? Maybe, maybe not, but buyers still want to know what the choices are.
Cheers,
R.
2) Waiting a bit might mean a big rebate on a 08 X.
3) The 2010 model might be worth waiting for.
I don't expect the refreshed X to be a HUGE difference, but it's going to go head to head with a refreshed STI. I think it's fair to expect it to have more power and a better interior. I'd say there's even a chance at a 6 speed manual. Worth waiting for? Maybe, maybe not, but buyers still want to know what the choices are.
Cheers,
R.
wasn't 07 evo IX for sale in the states, and i dont think it did hurt the evo sale at all.
2/ big rebate because of the 09 model? i think the rebate comes from the year old model sale not the new one comes out or not.
3/ well if the 2010 worth to wait for , then how about the 2012? that should be even more worth for to wait.
But thanks i got an idea why is so important
