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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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fail. ruins the clean look. ruins functionality. ruins your e-*****.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alex3dworld
Buddy, really, did study fluids?
Archimedes, Pascal, do you know these buddies?
lol... Archimedes and Pascal are guys you talk about in a Freshman Physics class.

Bernoulli, Mach, von Karman, ... those are names you see in Fluid Mechanics


Pfffffffffffffffff...
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by alex3dworld

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh
i got it!!!!!!!!!
that's why we reduce our exhaust diameter to 1 inch pipes, to increase volume flow right?
or maybe that's why we spend 300 bucks to make the IC pipes wider.
Got it!!

Buddy, really, did study fluids?
Archimedes, Pascal, do you know these buddies?

If you are blowing air through a pipe and your reduce the diameter you will have indeed more speed (if you are able to keep the same air preasure) the volume of air getting inside is the same or less because the backpressure and turbulence that you create reducing the diameter.
maybe i should bring you some formulas

For a smart guy, you sure are dumb.

How many times do I have to explain this to you genius...

The intake of the IC (area that air travels through it) STAYS THE SAME, but the diverters INCREASE the velocity of the air through this area of the intercooler...hence more air travels through it in a given amount of time compaired to a slower velocity.

Got it Einstien?

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DarwinX
For a smart guy, you sure are dumb.

How many times do I have to explain this to you genius...

The intake of the IC (area that air travels through it) STAYS THE SAME, but the diverters INCREASE the velocity of the air through this area of the intercooler...hence more air travels through it in a given amount of time compaired to a slower velocity.

Got it Einstien?

lol
Thanks for the title, my wife call me like that too. it really turn me on, so you better stop calling me Einstein.

it's a shame that you go mad, it's provably your age. well...anyway, let me explain you my son.
can i call you my son?

I’m telling you that you are wrong
We have two scenarios:

#1 (mine) an open area, no obstacles, a car travels 50 miles/h it creates a constant air flow in my area of 2 cubic foot/second.

#2 (yours) same area but you introduce an object diverting the air to 50% less area in the interior. if both cars keep the same speed, buddy, there is no way that you have the same 2 cubic foot/second inside. You have an obstacle and no matter how polished or good angle it has. Less air is going inside.

Put your finger in the opening of a water hose. That’s an obstacle. Less water is coming out
The water that is coming out, yes is coming faster, but is coming less.

And you can ask me, Hey Daddy:
...... And were is all the air that is not coming in?
Why in your free obstacles area is coming more air/second than mine?
Easy.
When your air molecules start hitting the obstacle walls, they bounce in other direction, because they change direction, they wont reach the entrance point at the time than they suppose to reach without your obstacle. They have to travel a longer distance. Longer distance at the same speed equals more time. All the molecules hitting your obstacle travel more distance than mine
The angle of the obstacle, temperature, and roughness of the surface is really important in the equation.

I hope you got it this time


my son.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by alex3dworld
lol
Thanks for the title, my wife call me like that too. it really turn me on, so you better stop calling me Einstein.

it's a shame that you go mad, it's provably your age. well...anyway, let me explain you my son.
can i call you my son?

I’m telling you that you are wrong
We have two scenarios:

#1 (mine) an open area, no obstacles, a car travels 50 miles/h it creates a constant air flow in my area of 2 cubic foot/second.

#2 (yours) same area but you introduce an object diverting the air to 50% less area in the interior. if both cars keep the same speed, buddy, there is no way that you have the same 2 cubic foot/second inside. You have an obstacle and no matter how polished or good angle it has. Less air is going inside.

Put your finger in the opening of a water hose. That’s an obstacle. Less water is coming out
The water that is coming out, yes is coming faster, but is coming less.

...... And were is all the air that is not coming in?
Why in your free obstacles area is coming more air/second than mine?

Easy.

When your air molecules start hitting the obstacle walls, they bounce in other direction, because they change direction, they wont reach the entrance point at the time than they suppose to reach without your obstacle. They have to travel a longer distance. Longer distance at the same speed equals more time. All the molecules hitting your obstacle travel more distance than mine
The angle of the obstacle, temperature, and roughness of the surface is really important in the equation.



my son.
You're truly live in your own little world, don't you.



The diverters DO NOT IN ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM restrict the opening of the IC (i.e area where the air flows through it). What the diverters do is increase the velocity of the air going through it in a given time frame opposed to a slower velocity without them...hence MORE air will flow through the IC WITH the diverters in the same given time frame and speed.

Who's your Daddy now...

Thanks for telling me not to call you Einstein in the future...I have no intentions of ever having you spoon up to me.

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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I'll use your example. Take sponge, run the hose above it, all the water flow around the sponge. Stick a funnel into the sponge, now all the water run THROUGH it. Granted water and sponge aren't exactly the same as air and IC, it's the same idea. Also an exposed endtank is a lot less effective at cooling than a bunch of fins. Also the discussion wasn't about cooling to engine bay, but IC and raidator.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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The engine bay does not need nor want air flow. Putting air into the engine bay increases drag and reduces the cooling ability of all of your heat exchangers. All of the openings in the front of a car should be ducted to a heat exchanger (or brakes) and then promptly ducted outside of the engine bay.

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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I'll be leaving mine on for dirt-blocking purposes alone. Same with the undertray.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by derekste
Same with the undertray.
that one's already been discussed too
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by alex3dworld
it doesn't divert "more" air
it divert air "faster", it's diferent
same thing happen when your step on top of a water pipe, water come out faster, in less diameter. the amount of water is the same, since the City is sending you trough the pipes the same amount,
now if the city increase the flow, you will have more water coming from the pipes, what is in our case to increase the speed of the car, the faster you go, the more air comes inside.
but open or close, the amount of air is the same, provably is even less if you study the turbulance that bottle necks can create.
sometimes companies play with your mind like that and you believe that becouse is "faster" the air you are going to have more.
lol
get use to
What everyone there is getting at is bernoulli's principle that higher velocity = lower temperature and vis versa. The fact that you are restricting the air going through those ducts both decreases the tempurature and directs the airflow where you want it. The endtanks do nothing to cool the air.

Originally Posted by alex3dworld

If you are blowing air through a pipe and your reduce the diameter you will have indeed more speed (if you are able to keep the same air preasure) the volume of air getting inside is the same or less because the backpressure and turbulence that you create reducing the diameter.

maybe i should bring you some formulas
WRONG. In a smaller diameter pipe the velocity increases, pressure decreases, and volume REMAINS THE SAME.

Maybe I should bring you some formulas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli's_principle

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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I think it looks more mechanical and will draw interest/attention. Looks ok IMO but the factory pieces look more finshed/put together. I don't know if I would do it without an aftermarket FMIC though.

As far as the argument about function which has nothing to do with the OP.

“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.”

Mark Twain

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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I am not going to edit out all the nonsense. Post respectfully or its points - this is your warning.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mad_VIII
looks much better with the plastic left in place. Removing the plastic makes it look kinda like you stuck an I.C. into an NA lancer.. just does not look like it was intended to come that way from the factory.
if everything was left as it was intended to come from the factory, then everyone's car would look the same. that's the beauty of personalization and modding. you try new things and you stray from the stock model and make it your own. thanks for the feedback.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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Honesty i like the way it looks with the plastic on. It hides the mechanical pieces giving it a clean look and keeps the intercooler low key by not exposing all the other pieces. A black core wook look sweet with the plastic still installed. give it more of a low profile appearence.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Like the incognito look much more than the huge FMIC and piping showing. On a side note to this, what are the radiators located in front of the front wheel well?
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