Debating between 370z, Evo X, and Genesis Coupe
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From: Dania, FL
Its what your intentions are like Tipoytm said, practicality the evo x hands down, plus its a pretty fun car and modifying it to get some good power is not too expensive, where as the 370z can be pricey, also the 370z doesnt have too much of an aftermarket product support yet but it will. I personally have an Evo and a S14. Its a tough call man, AWD or RWD.
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Have always thought that the Nissans are ugly, driven by 911 wannabes. Based on what I've seen on track, they aren't tough either. Unlike the rally cars from mitsu and subaru.
OTOH, the biggest drawback of the evo is what everyone here lauds: the AWD setup. I get the whole rally bred concept, but I like the playfulness of the rwd car. But the absolutely vicious turn-in and grip of the evo are really hard to ignore.
Get the fire breathing evo.
OTOH, the biggest drawback of the evo is what everyone here lauds: the AWD setup. I get the whole rally bred concept, but I like the playfulness of the rwd car. But the absolutely vicious turn-in and grip of the evo are really hard to ignore.
Get the fire breathing evo.
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Have always thought that the Nissans are ugly, driven by 911 wannabes. Based on what I've seen on track, they aren't tough either. Unlike the rally cars from mitsu and subaru.
OTOH, the biggest drawback of the evo is what everyone here lauds: the AWD setup. I get the whole rally bred concept, but I like the playfulness of the rwd car. But the absolutely vicious turn-in and grip of the evo are really hard to ignore.
Get the fire breathing evo.
OTOH, the biggest drawback of the evo is what everyone here lauds: the AWD setup. I get the whole rally bred concept, but I like the playfulness of the rwd car. But the absolutely vicious turn-in and grip of the evo are really hard to ignore.
Get the fire breathing evo.
One of these days I'll get a chance to drive a 370z, and then I'll know, but I can say that I have a newer C6 that definitely has a lot more punch and power to weight over the evo, but I still drive the evoX six days a week, because it is practical, higher off the ground, easier to park, and has better steering feel and can be run at 9/10's all day long driving one handed.
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Have you looked into a Pontiac G8 GXP? It's faster than all of the cars mentioned here stock, plus it's a 4 door. Nothing special on the exterior but it runs 12.81 stock......
If the 370z being a coupe is a negative for you then I would really think about whether you want it or not. I love performance sedans because you have power and a "regular car" that can do "regular stuff." Though the Evo X trunk is abysmally small ha ha ha ha.
If the 370z being a coupe is a negative for you then I would really think about whether you want it or not. I love performance sedans because you have power and a "regular car" that can do "regular stuff." Though the Evo X trunk is abysmally small ha ha ha ha.
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I liked the S2000 a lot. Mine was one of the very first brought into the US in 99. An exciting car, but the problem with it was twofold: (i) its insanely happy rear end that suffered from terrible bumpsteer and camber issues, and (ii) horrific tq that made it a chore to drive around town.
The v2 cars had much improved rear suspension geo. Tq, well, the extra .2L helped. But the newer cars are still annoying IMO.
A fantastic second or third car, terrible daily driver IMO.
Oh, also, very much a split personality. I found the motor to be grating with the top up. Resonance and buzziness. Top down and all was right in the world.
The v2 cars had much improved rear suspension geo. Tq, well, the extra .2L helped. But the newer cars are still annoying IMO.
A fantastic second or third car, terrible daily driver IMO.
Oh, also, very much a split personality. I found the motor to be grating with the top up. Resonance and buzziness. Top down and all was right in the world.
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I was one of those AP1 S2000 owners who swore they would never get rid of their car. After 2 years the usual reasons for letting go happened to me: needed a backseat and got so I didn't take the top down that much. I never cared much for AP2's, they dulled that raw edge I was after at the time.
If the driving experience is your main criteria, a RWD sportscar will win hands down over any sports sedan to me. RWD will make you a better driver for sure IMO. A top down sportscar wins over a hardtop with that in mind as well. Go drive an S with the top down and then compare.
If I didn't need a real backseat or didn't want a convertible, the Z would be the obvious choice to me for a new car. Lots of people have S2000's as second cars so you can find plenty of low mileage well kept examples as well. They are extremely well made cars.
With that said the X does what I wanted it to. Gives me room for my kids and doesn't feel like a FWD derived sedan when pushed hard. Best handling car I've ever had hands down.
If the driving experience is your main criteria, a RWD sportscar will win hands down over any sports sedan to me. RWD will make you a better driver for sure IMO. A top down sportscar wins over a hardtop with that in mind as well. Go drive an S with the top down and then compare.
If I didn't need a real backseat or didn't want a convertible, the Z would be the obvious choice to me for a new car. Lots of people have S2000's as second cars so you can find plenty of low mileage well kept examples as well. They are extremely well made cars.
With that said the X does what I wanted it to. Gives me room for my kids and doesn't feel like a FWD derived sedan when pushed hard. Best handling car I've ever had hands down.
I think the OP should go with the 370Z since he's wanted this car for a while. Later on when the car doesn't excite you anymore or you want something a little different you can upgrade to the Evo.
the nismo z just came out. its not much more $. I raced all the cars you mentioned on a road course and beat them all in my stock X (yes, even a GT-R), so I still think the X is the better sports car in the hands of an novice driver. Actually one of the 370's that was there had to get towed off because he blew his trans =/
But that all depends on what you want to do with it. If you plan on doing any real driving, AWD is a huge help. If you just want to look good going to work, get a used 911 and call it a day.
Go test drive a nismo z. that's what the z should have been to start with. see what you think after that. if you like it less, than go look at a used m3 or something instead
But that all depends on what you want to do with it. If you plan on doing any real driving, AWD is a huge help. If you just want to look good going to work, get a used 911 and call it a day.
Go test drive a nismo z. that's what the z should have been to start with. see what you think after that. if you like it less, than go look at a used m3 or something instead
Get an s2k and turbo that sucker! It'll be faster then all above mentioned with less problems and look smoother with the top down! Just get a lancer gts too for when you need back seats.
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If you are still curious about S2000, maybe this video may help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWjMvrkUqX0
Forget whether it is fast or not, but the response, sound, motorcycle-like display and how much engagement is needed is just intoxicating. That shake-shake counter-counter schitzo steering image almost goes hand in hand with S2000.
If you commute a lot, or like taking the bait on stoplight/highway races, do burnout, or drift, the S2000 probably isn't for you, if you want a very fast car, the s2000 probably won't meet your needs. But if fun is all that matters, it may even be a better car than an Elise, as engine feels a bit crappy in S2 Elises, shifter is not as nice, lack of ABS or powersteering is more annoying than feeling raw and more expensive outside UK than the S2000.
There is something about the Honda performance cars, especially NSX's (NA1 and NA2), S2000 (AP1 and AP2), Civic Type R (EK9) and Integra Type R (DC2). They kinda feel like the original Golf, but the fun is much more amplified and edgier. The newer CTR and ITRs (EP3, FD2, DC5) still feels similar, and are even quicker than their predecessors (FD2 Civic being even faster than an S2000), but the significant weight gain and switch to macpherson strut in front (nsx, s2k and older ITR and CTRs had double wishbones front and rear) affected negatively interms of driving feel. S2000 feels the most fun out of them because of top down ability and you can do it in 6 seconds when the car is not in motion.
If you are looking for the first car, I'd say get an evo, then save up for a used s2000 as a second car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWjMvrkUqX0
Forget whether it is fast or not, but the response, sound, motorcycle-like display and how much engagement is needed is just intoxicating. That shake-shake counter-counter schitzo steering image almost goes hand in hand with S2000.
If you commute a lot, or like taking the bait on stoplight/highway races, do burnout, or drift, the S2000 probably isn't for you, if you want a very fast car, the s2000 probably won't meet your needs. But if fun is all that matters, it may even be a better car than an Elise, as engine feels a bit crappy in S2 Elises, shifter is not as nice, lack of ABS or powersteering is more annoying than feeling raw and more expensive outside UK than the S2000.
There is something about the Honda performance cars, especially NSX's (NA1 and NA2), S2000 (AP1 and AP2), Civic Type R (EK9) and Integra Type R (DC2). They kinda feel like the original Golf, but the fun is much more amplified and edgier. The newer CTR and ITRs (EP3, FD2, DC5) still feels similar, and are even quicker than their predecessors (FD2 Civic being even faster than an S2000), but the significant weight gain and switch to macpherson strut in front (nsx, s2k and older ITR and CTRs had double wishbones front and rear) affected negatively interms of driving feel. S2000 feels the most fun out of them because of top down ability and you can do it in 6 seconds when the car is not in motion.
If you are looking for the first car, I'd say get an evo, then save up for a used s2000 as a second car.
I've driven a stock X and wasn't all that impressed. Then I got a ride at and HPDE in a modded X - ~400whp, Enduratech Coilovers - and WOW, what a difference. If I didn't have as much time and money invested in my Evo VIII, I'd have seriously considered an X. The difference between stock and modded is night and day.
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