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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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before the evo i had a s2k, i agree with what everyone says, its a great car and i miss it too but its a great 2nd car not daily driver, i driven a 370z and Genesis Coupe for a full day around town and both i feel are equal to each other, 370z is slighty better, but the evo is still the winner.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Only 2 seater I would for is s2k... It's really agile and fun to drive. 370z looks too bulky and big for me. I would go for evoX and which I did... AWD Grip ftw!!
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hotdog
I think you'd be silly NOT to drive an STI, unless you just hate how they look or something. Lots and lots of cars in this price range.

Have you driven a 135/335i?

Do you plan to mod the cars at all? If so, the Evo is a clear front runner.
Thank you! +1 to the above.

Originally Posted by Nineball
Mmmm... I already planned on getting KW V3's with some flat black te37's on the 370z. I wouldn't see why I wouldn't mod the evo x :P . I have to find someone with a tuned X to see if I'd like it.
Since you are in Florida (no snow problems) I would seriously consider the 370 and the CR S2000. Take the money you'd spend on KWs and te37s for the 370 and put them towards a turbo for the S2k... Trust me, you'll love it (was my first car, thanks to dad wanting a car more than buying son a beater, I got to drive it when he didn't need it, eventually it became our gutted turbo'd track car)

Originally Posted by heavyD
How could you loathe RWD? I love AWD but RWD is more fun. Really if you live in a climate that get's no snow RWD is the way to go.
Agreed. If I lived in no-snow climate I'd be in a RWD car for sure, most likely a C6 (since I would've gotten it before the 370z released).

Originally Posted by Nineball
If you don't mind me asking, how did you like your s2k? A lot of people I talk to that used to have one always say they regret selling it or miss it.
Loved it, but based on the climate I wouldn't own one again without it being a second car. AP2 or CR with a turbo and supporting mods... We had a little over 300 whp in our track S2k and that was without VTEC turned on and the boost a little lower than we could probably have gone. I think with the tune set-up more properly the guy that owns it now has over 400 whp.

The flip-side is that 300 whp is a dime-a-dozen among Evos/STis. And even 400 whp is a fairly easily reachable goal, certainly cheaper than 400 whp in an S. But neither car will ever be as fun to drive as the S.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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^ The problem with test driving the STi is that they are detuned. The ECU will not give you any power what so ever until the car hits 1k miles. It's their 'break in' safety. I think the car only makes like 1/2 the power.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Thanks again for the feedback guys, I'll be checking out an s2000 later today. In the meantime I'm still looking to see if I could get with someone who has a tuned X that I could check out. Only ****ty thing is that I can't find any 08 X GSR's and there are no '10s on the east coast as far as I can see. If you have a tuned X and are in south FL, hit me up (I'll buy you lunch or something ).

So far... I like the X a lot, but I don't know if the minor issues like rattles, fitment issues with aero kit, etc are gonna make me regret it. On the other hand, I love the feeling of boost as it's very addictive... I'm going to go test drive a GSR at Potamkin Mitsubishi, but I don't know if I'd get bored of it after a while. Is the Evo X something I'd get bored of after a while after I stop modding? WIll I get adjusted to the boost and take it for granted after a while? These are just some questions to edge me out a little bit more.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sne2040
^ The problem with test driving the STi is that they are detuned. The ECU will not give you any power what so ever until the car hits 1k miles. It's their 'break in' safety. I think the car only makes like 1/2 the power.
Hmm, that's interesting news to me. I'll have to check with the Evo guy in Utah that works at one of the Subaru dealerships... Regardless, like the Evo, the factory tune is horrible, even after that break-in safety period.

I swear the STi and WRX265 I test drove felt just as fast as they should've.

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Is the Evo X something I'd get bored of after a while after I stop modding? WIll I get adjusted to the boost and take it for granted after a while? These are just some questions to edge me out a little bit more.
No, because then you'll keep modding, just take your time with the mods and you'll never get bored. You'll get used to the boost, and then mod again. I don't think you'll ever take it for granted though, even if you get used to it and stop modding. I certainly missed it when I didn't have it, and love it again now that it is back.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nineball
Is the Evo X something I'd get bored of after a while after I stop modding? WIll I get adjusted to the boost and take it for granted after a while? These are just some questions to edge me out a little bit more.
It'll probably go something like this:

mod 1 - more power ... get used to it and...
mod 2 - more power ... get used to it and...
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Then after a couple of years you start to wonder how much you really still like your car, and you see that shiny new Evo XI or 390Z, or whatever, and you go to test drive it ... at which point you take out that shiny new car, step on the gas and your first reaction will be: WTF?!? This thing has no power!! It drives like a slug. Well, at least that's what happens to me these days. Amazing how fast you can get used to 400whp and how 'slow' a 300HP car will feel in comparison. On the flip side, at over 400whp, my car is still fast enough to give me those 'pucker moments' when I track it, so even after almost 5 years now, I don't think I'll be getting tired of it anytime soon.

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
It'll probably go something like this:

mod 1 - more power ... get used to it and...
mod 2 - more power ... get used to it and...
...

Then after a couple of years you start to wonder how much you really still like your car, and you see that shiny new Evo XI or 390Z, or whatever, and you go to test drive it ... at which point you take out that shiny new car, step on the gas and your first reaction will be: WTF?!? This thing has no power!! It drives like a slug. Well, at least that's what happens to me these days. Amazing how fast you can get used to 400whp and how 'slow' a 300HP car will feel in comparison. On the flip side, at over 400whp, my car is still fast enough to give me those 'pucker moments' when I track it, so even after almost 5 years now, I don't think I'll be getting tired of it anytime soon.

l8r)
Sounds like I'd need to get my thrills from a bike afterwards :P
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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^ Nonsense, at 'only' 400whp, I've still got 600 to go, if I want them.

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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And you can always gut the car. A 400whp Evo is a completely different machine when it shaves 600 lbs.

Honestly, I had 300 whp in the old Evo and that would've been fine for quite a very long time. I just hated the interior and turbo lag, so I went crazy stupid and headed into luxury car domain... Big mistake there.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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I disagree on the practicality of the rear seats in the Genesis. They were extremely small. Not built for average size adults.
mmmm, sure not the best rear seats, but workable in a pinch.
And plus having the rear seats for luggage is convenient as well compared to the 370's Z's nothingness.

Originally Posted by chidevildog
370z = chick magnet

evo x = v6/v8 magnet + n/a cars + soccer moms+ trucks+ 2 wheelers+atv's+speed boats+ rc's+mopeds+scooters+ppl on skates+chicks

see where im going here? lol
I would call an Evo a **** magnet more than anything else.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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go with the Z
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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I read on a tabloid somewhere that Christian Slater bought a Bugatti Veyron, after a month he got bored with it... word on the street is he now wants the AMS Evo-8 1000whp dragster. He'll never get bored of that. True story.

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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If I were looking to get a new car it would be a toss up between the Evo and 370 as well. In my limited research in trying to find out about their reliability, it seems that the evo suffers from a weak tranny while the Z sucks oil quickly.

I haven't really looked into each issue so much but maybe it would be another thing to consider when comparing the two.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by supergouki
If I were looking to get a new car it would be a toss up between the Evo and 370 as well. In my limited research in trying to find out about their reliability, it seems that the evo suffers from a weak tranny while the Z sucks oil quickly.

I haven't really looked into each issue so much but maybe it would be another thing to consider when comparing the two.
Funny but I thought the 370Z was the car with the weak trannys? Edmunds is one of many already having to be replaced;

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...placement.html
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