it's so much more than just the engine. example that you just use: hyundai genesis coupe 2.0t. It's 22k and RWD and uses the same base engine as the evo. Yet its also built like crap and doesn't perform nearly as well. but its cheaper! you get what you pay for.

Want something built better? Get a BMW 328i. It's slow, its boring, but its reliable and somewhat luxurious with good build quality. but the price is the same! See how that works? Its called a trade-off. For the price, you have to make compromises. the evo is no exception.

and are you really saying that kia and hyundia have more brand respect than mitsu? wow

 

True.

However, when you get into the MR model and its price out the door is nearing 50k, you start to wonder, is it for suckers? The MR should offer quality for its price.

Although, mitsubishi's have been known to fall a part. They just aren't known to "last". I've owned a 3000GT VR-4, it fell a part after a few years, I've had two evolutions. Both had horrible paint quality, both had horrible interiors. What am I paying 30k for? AWD and a 4G63?

 

I'm on my 4th Mitsubishi. We still have our 02 oz rally andit has 130k miles on it. We've had very few issues with this car. An input speed sensor and an 02 sensor have gone out. The car still drives like it did off the lot. So I don't agree with mitsubishis always falling apart.

Also I paid 38k for my MR otd fully loaded (tech, nav, interior, aero). I'm perfectly happy with my MR for the money. I actually felt I could have spent another 10k.

 

So what would you prefer for the same price as an Evo,
-which will out perform an Evo + more reliable + better build quality??

side note ... respond as good as an EVo to the upgrades...

side note two... the after market parts price are as low as the Evo after market parts + gives a same gains..


You dont have to buy an Evo . Fact they dont even advertise it on TV.

But some how raise the question, why did you buy one? You don't have to answer it here or anybody else , just for yourself really.

The Evo is not for everyone. And this thread is really prove it.

Rob

 

Yea, I think MSRP on a base MR is around $37k, not $50k. Besides just the SST, you do get more luxury for that. It has better seats, so one gripe solved. It also has better wheels and suspension, which will lessen interior rattles. And some of the style stuff thats optional on the GSR comes standard. But again, most of the cost differences is for for the transmission.

It's hard to find much to compare to the MR. The only things that are close are the BMW i335x ($42k, not as fast, luxury, a normal automatic with fancy awd), a GT-R ($80k, faster, slighly improved quality, coupe), and a 911 Carrerra with PDK ($80k, about the same performance, higher quality, rwd, coupe). Maybe you can throw a GTI wtih DSG in there for $25k, but lets not kid ourselves Likewise, we can throw in the R8 with r-tronic, starting at $123k. Bottom line is that you spend a ton more to get to the luxury performance or super car category, or save money but lose performance and drop down to economy class. Same rules apply.

 

I paid 41k in April of 2008 for my X with SSS and AERO plus the application of zylon. With that being said, I've only had one issue (passenger side rocker molding). The rep and I had words; I called MMNA and the issue was resolved. The rep was one of those "I'm better than you are" guys which in turned pissed me off and pushed me to the point where I said "you will fix this car" and so they did.

I have 17K now, the car has minor rock chips, a few small scratches and no other issues rather than a noisy interior at times! You guys have to remember these vehicles are man made, GOD personally didn't assemble these cars! You admit to not taking the proper steps in keeping the car maintained, bulbs need replaced, their built for the soul purpose to eventually burn out (nothing in this world lasts forever)!

You can complain about the X all you want; you can swear by Subaru, Honda and Toyota but their far from perfect! If it were just Mitsubishi having issue's why did Toyota just recall thousands of cars due to the fact they wouldn't stop in cold weather? Mitsubishi's unlike Subaru aren't recalling/replacing engines because their built defective from the assembly line! Get over it, these are common issue's with all cars... Go over to the Cobalt SS pages and see how many guys are complaining about their clutches. The price tag never stated the car wouldn't have issue's, in the end you have to live with your decisions, best of luck.

P.S. "The grass isn't always greener on the other side".

 

Exactly. It's easy to see who bought an Evo as a fashion statement and who bought one to drive. I vividly recall folks buying CT9As, spending a year or two decorating the cars, and then selling them after their owners realized they preferred something (err...) "softer." There's no reason to think the same won't happen with the X. Personally, even though I've owned 2 Evos and bought the last one to keep, I've never recommended the car to a single soul. Those who've shown interest simply would not have been happy with an Evo. Lots of folks like to think of themselves as the sporting sorts, but when push comes to shove the reality of the situation sets in.

 

As far as reliability, I've owned an OZ, GTS and X... My father owns a Endeavor and a 89 Mighty Max (zero issues outside of my aero kit). My friends own or have owned a 98 Mirage (totally trashed zero issues), previous gen Eclipse (zero problems), mid 90's Eclipse (zero issues), mid 90's Eagle Talon (zero issues, 2006 Galant (zero issues), 2007 Galant (and yep, you've guessed it zero issues). Sure there were maintenance and minor things along the way but nothing to set you back in the wallet department!

 

realism, common sense and a great point!

Edit: The main reason I think this is a valid point is because Mitsu clearly made statements in public about the Evo X reaching out to a larger demographic. If that is the case, one shouldn't keep banking on the idea that small vehicular flaws are ok since it was purchased for enthusiast driving only. Word Check-- I am not saying the CZ is any less of a car than the CT, I'm merely stating that if Mitsu wants to own up to reaching out to a larger demographic, then they should be prepared to accommodate said demographic. With that said, I absolutely love my CT9A, have pretty much no problems with it (knock on wood) but then again, it's not my daily driver, all work is done by CBRD (a top class shop) and I clear shielded the **** out of it. If I bought this car to be a daily driver, I would be beyond pissed at the ownership expense of it as a commuter car.
If nothing else, we shouldn't jump down each others throats for stating opinion. Whether your a die hard Evo fan or someone that was looking for spirited daily driver with a legends name, sharing your opinion shouldn't get you flamed. That kind of criticism should be sparingly served up to comments that have no justification or data to back it up in any way.

 

It doesn't matter what all you die hard evo fans think. you'll always stick with the car and mitsu knows it - they don't lose sleep over appeasing you as they know you will rationalize any flaws the car has anyway. this is for all the other consumers out there trying a mitsubishi and "getting what they paid for".. like i said before, if you're gonna build a car to branch the market out to start competing with other luxury brands their approach should have had more emphasis in the "car" part of sports car

 

I own a 2003 Evo 8 that I bought new, overall i'm happy with it. I did have the transfer case replaced and tranny rebuilt at 30k under warrenty. Yeah it's not the best quailty in terms of interior: My windows have way to much side to side movement when they are down a bit, the temp knob is VERY hard to turn, I get a few plastic squeaks, my wipers started coming on by themselves then quit working; highbeams didn't work; a bunch of other electrical **** stopped working so I had to get the junction box and wiring harness hardwired for $1,200 because Mitsu wanted $4,500 to replace all my harnesses. Exterior: clearcoat on wing started peeling I fixed that, the clear on all my calipers about fell off, the bulbs burn out fast.

I currently have 97,000 miles. The engine, stock turbo, tranny, and awd have been perfect. But Mitsu does need to improve their overall quailty! I am willing to buy a 2010 Evo X but I will buy a 7yr/100k bumper to bumper warrenty this time!

 

Wake up, honestly! The X handles better than the previous gen EVO's and is just as fast to 60... The X is and will always be another rally inspired EVO Mitsubishi markets, for us (the aging, boy racing EVOITIES)! If you got a slew of new features like the X has you're bound to pay for it some where. I'll take all my goodies and you can keep your "worn bar of soap" that finishes the 1/2 miles a few tenths faster than mine!

 

+1

 

lol i love how people think because the car is reputed to handle better they're suddenly a better driver than anyone with the ct9a

this is the exact market that mitsubishi loves to have

 

It has nothing to do with Mitsubishi, have you picked up recent car magazines? Have you ever seen a stock 8 or 9 EVO GSR pull on 1G on the skid? You find the magazine that states the 8 and 9 pulling 1G (stock) and I'll kiss you a**! Did I say I was a better driver? Where in that statement do you see those words? I went so far to say the 8/9 EVO will beat my X in a quarter, granted if the drivers were evenly matched! I'll take those 7 airs bags, 650 watt rockford, climate control and recero seats over your tenths of a second (ANY DAY)!