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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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No, it's not cheaper to buy. I own the land and the house is about 1550 sq. ft. I'm getting it built turn key for 75.00 a sq ft. and around here, no house can be bought for that price.
Hey man,

Do you have other substantial debt?
If your wife works too, and since you're newlyweds you won't have any kids yet, you can knock out a 120k home loan and that Evo payment with ease! The fact you already own the land gives you a huge leg up.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Hey man,

Do you have other substantial debt?
If your wife works too, and since you're newlyweds you won't have any kids yet, you can knock out a 120k home loan and that Evo payment with ease! The fact you already own the land gives you a huge leg up.
The only other debt we have is her car which is about 4200.00 or something... no major issue, but it's a crappy 02 Ford Escape and has constant problems. I actually have considered getting her a Ralliart since they are safe, AWD and have pretty much the same things my Evo has... plus there's 1500.00 off on the lancers, and I would have the 500.00 for customer loyalty. If they had more i'd buy one and get her one and we both would have lower payments.

With that being said.. is there a "how much did you pay for your Ralliart" thread on here?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Methodical4u
The only other debt we have is her car which is about 4200.00 or something... no major issue, but it's a crappy 02 Ford Escape and has constant problems. I actually have considered getting her a Ralliart since they are safe, AWD and have pretty much the same things my Evo has... plus there's 1500.00 off on the lancers, and I would have the 500.00 for customer loyalty. If they had more i'd buy one and get her one and we both would have lower payments.

With that being said.. is there a "how much did you pay for your Ralliart" thread on here?
Since you will be a homeowner soon I would get her a SUV or truck. You will need the room and the ability to haul and move things.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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meeh, I'm paying $857 canadian / month with $5k down for the MR
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Methodical4u
Well guys, I got married on the 19th and my new wife and I have been looking at building a house, but it seems that my 516.00 a month payment may be a bit to much, so I am considering selling it after a few more months of payments since the selling prices aren't that high for the X's right now, as of Oct I will owe 26,9. I have thought of everything that I could possibly do... even a refinance, which would be stupid since I have 0%, but that would at least drop the payment.

So, I have started to think of other cars that I could get.. whether new or used, but in great condition and i'm not to sure of what to go for. If I can pay another 6 months or so I could refinance for 72 months since my credit is good and maybe get a pretty decent rate, but I may be better off buying someone elses X that has a few more miles on it for a lower price. I'd like to try to keep the AWD since it always comes in handy so a used STI could be possible, I didn't want to go the IX route, not because I don't love the car, but the safety rating is just horrible with them and i'm not putting my wife in any sort of risk... it has to at least have better than average safety.

I've also thought of going to route of a lightly damaged car of some sort and then just fixing it myself.

Anyway, just looking for some ideas on something that could get me around 400.00 a month or maybe even less.

Any other cars in mind? Doesn't HAVE to be AWD, but it would be nice.


Used Lancer Ralliart 2009 or 2010 Sportback model.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Hey fellas, FWIW, I was just turned on to Pentagon Federal Credit Union, and joined by going through National Military Family Association. Anyway, their loan rates range from very good to spectacular. I will be able to trim $1k/month off my current mortgage. I haven't compared car loan rates, so can't comment on those, but to the OP, check it out.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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Presumably if you are extending the term, you only borrow on the 5th - 8th 9 (or whatver ) year. DO NOT trade 0% 5 year for X% 7 or 8 years over the full term. It would be a very poor financial move. Normally I view cars as an expendable / wasting asset (since they are) but maybe you can put off the house build for a bit. I'd keep the car not necessarily because I'm an EVO fan (I am) but because after all the friction of loan fees, new terms, loss on trade in (or selling in distressed market ) you won't come out much ahead. Plus remember , you have THEIR money at 0%

The other thing to keep in mind is I think these will hold value well one we economic growth picks up again:
A) there will be inflation, the dollar is falling so even in this environment MSRPs on new cars will creep up
B) The X production is low since they skipped a model year and don't seem to be producing much for 2010.
C) Right now there are a lot of distressed sellers of EVOs, but they will find "stronger" hands to hold them with time

So in short, you have already taken the maximum depreciation hit, you have a great rate, new terms would be worse and there would be deal friction (selling at trade in , fees etc..).

Maybe I'm just reinforcing the decision you already made a few posts above to keep it, but that's what I would do.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by toro10
Presumably if you are extending the term, you only borrow on the 5th - 8th 9 (or whatver ) year. DO NOT trade 0% 5 year for X% 7 or 8 years over the full term. It would be a very poor financial move. Normally I view cars as an expendable / wasting asset (since they are) but maybe you can put off the house build for a bit. I'd keep the car not necessarily because I'm an EVO fan (I am) but because after all the friction of loan fees, new terms, loss on trade in (or selling in distressed market ) you won't come out much ahead. Plus remember , you have THEIR money at 0%

The other thing to keep in mind is I think these will hold value well one we economic growth picks up again:
A) there will be inflation, the dollar is falling so even in this environment MSRPs on new cars will creep up
B) The X production is low since they skipped a model year and don't seem to be producing much for 2010.
C) Right now there are a lot of distressed sellers of EVOs, but they will find "stronger" hands to hold them with time

So in short, you have already taken the maximum depreciation hit, you have a great rate, new terms would be worse and there would be deal friction (selling at trade in , fees etc..).

Maybe I'm just reinforcing the decision you already made a few posts above to keep it, but that's what I would do.
This is some of the best advice I have seen on this forum. but I would like to add one thing. The current housing market is still falling... meaning new homes are being built less and less still (dont listen to Obama) the housing market is far from getting better. What does this mean to you???? I will tell you... contractor bids, contractors that build houses are hating life right now because of lack of work and the work is still droping off... so a contractor will be more willing to settle on a lower cost to manufacture a new home. So you can still build a home for a good price in the near and maybe not so near future and keep the evo (along with not taking a loss on it) and still come out on top. but thats just my .2 as a former contractor.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by toro10
PI'd keep the car not necessarily because I'm an EVO fan (I am) but because after all the friction of loan fees, new terms, loss on trade in (or selling in distressed market ) you won't come out much ahead. Plus remember , you have THEIR money at 0%
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The other thing to keep in mind is I think these will hold value well one we economic growth picks up again:
A) there will be inflation, the dollar is falling so even in this environment MSRPs on new cars will creep up
B) The X production is low since they skipped a model year and don't seem to be producing much for 2010.
C) Right now there are a lot of distressed sellers of EVOs, but they will find "stronger" hands to hold them with time
B and C appear accurate for the most part, but A is debatable. I personally believe that inflation is an almost necessary outcome of the current economic climate, but there are many who argue that it is not. But that's a macroeconomic issue; I think the transactional losses of a car swap by the OP dictate that he should keep the Evo.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Keep the Evo, cut your monthly living cost/overhead by at least $100... skip a few meals if you have to or don't go out as often and save on gas :-)
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Get a part time job at homedepot at 9 an hour. Work 3 hours 5 days a week. = 135 a week x 4 weeks= 540. There is your solution. How much do you like your car?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by knobby22
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B and C appear accurate for the most part, but A is debatable. I personally believe that inflation is an almost necessary outcome of the current economic climate, but there are many who argue that it is not. But that's a macroeconomic issue; I think the transactional losses of a car swap by the OP dictate that he should keep the Evo.
Actually I think the most debatable part of my first statement is that the dollar WILL fall (obviously has but that's a retrospective statement, but predicting currencies is notoriously difficult). It's hard to imagine though a scenario of when there are more $ than EVOs floating in the economy(as there are and will be) that the price doesn't go up (i.e. inflation is monetary phenomenon). Anyway, that's the way the smart hedge funds I know are betting.
Nice cars in your sig !
Now back to car talk....
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flyboytb
This is some of the best advice I have seen on this forum. but I would like to add one thing. The current housing market is still falling... meaning new homes are being built less and less still (dont listen to Obama) the housing market is far from getting better. What does this mean to you???? I will tell you... contractor bids, contractors that build houses are hating life right now because of lack of work and the work is still droping off... so a contractor will be more willing to settle on a lower cost to manufacture a new home. So you can still build a home for a good price in the near and maybe not so near future and keep the evo (along with not taking a loss on it) and still come out on top. but thats just my .2 as a former contractor.
The builder is a friend of the family... my family is involved in real estate so my total cost is 75.00 a sq. ft. and it may be a bit less when it's done, which includes all impact fees, septic, etc. so i'm getting the best price possible on the house.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Here is what Im doing:

Sold the evo for exactly what I owed. Drove my paid off 86 truck for 2 months and saved the $1000 a month the evo was costing me along with $300 per paycheck and took $3200 to honda and bought a 2009 Honda Fit. The payment is $260 a month, insurance is $92 a month and the gas is WAY less (35mpg and only 87 octane). So all in all it costs me around $450 a month to own the fit opposed to $1000.

Yes its not as fun as my evo but when you break down the numbers ($602 a month car payment, $175 a month insurance, $225 a month in gas) I am saving a HELL of alot of money.

Do I regret it? In some ways sure. Do I have ALOT more money flowing my way which i can spend on my family/drag car plus I have 100% less attention from the cops? Absolutely.

Consider it.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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A house is not an asset, it is more of a liability. Alot of people get this mixed up thinking a house is the greatest investment, its not.
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