Glad you had a good experience with yours... My ej257 took a crap on me though. Stock form and everything on my 2006. After dealing with that and not making much power while throwing money at it like I'm trying to make it rain I had to switch to a better platform.

When you mod, the EJ257 just doesn't hold up like the 4g63 or the 4b11t nor make the same power mod for mod.

P.s. And they CONSTANTLY burn oil. Even when I broke in the new short block after replacement, it was still effed with burning oil (manual suggested break-in was followed). Either way, onto bigger and better things.

 

What are those issues you are talking about? I don't know of any serious issues with these engines. From what I've seen(owned two GTIs with the FSI engine) they are pretty much bullet proof.

Gobs of torque at low RPM and 30 mpg. Not to mention that a simple reflash(stage 1) takes the GTI from 207 to 300 lb-ft. Sorry, but the awards are well deserved.

 

Hmmm...let's see. There's the cam follower problem that leads to catastrophic engine failure. VW, themselves, admitted that it's a design flaw in '08, but the owners are stuck with it. Still, gotta love the awards. Then there are the astronomical carbon deposits that make cylinder heads look like they're suffering from Black Lung. Of course, if you install an aftermarket part the warranty is void, and if you don't you never have to buy coal again. VW redesigned the FSI motor and '08.5+ production reflects the change. Would you like me to go on? Similarly, a number of Audi RS4s have been plagued with severe carbon deposit issues. Owners spent many thousands trying to fix the problem, while the factory insists it's not there.

Clearly, there seem to be quite a few factors that you're not aware of. Perhaps hanging back and learning a bit is a better way to go, especially when coming on to a forum as a noob. Just sayin'.

I've owned a number of Volkswagen two of which had the infamous 020 gearbox. The transmission was known to chew a hole in its housing. It was only a matter of time. I never had the problem with my cars, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

An ARP-tuned GTI barely managed to hit 195whp/225ftlbs on STM's MD and it was out of breath by 5K. 225ft/lbs at low revs is what one needs in a FWD car. A jogger could take it off the line with its wheel spin. Please, enough with the magazine racing.

Tell that to the owners who are **** out of luck.

 

You can get the STi to oversteer just by driving style, or I think more properly, by knowing the handling characteristics of the car you're driving. Watch this Top Gear video with Jeremy Clarkson (who only ever tries to power slide every car known to man). He can't get the STi to oversteer until he's told how to do it. (Yeah, it's from 2008 and therefore uses the hatchback STi, but you could probably do the same with the 2011 STi.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CfWdoSOTk
(There appears to be an advertisement first.)

I'm not going to argue that changing the suspension can't have the same effect, or at least help some. But just that there are many factors involved.

I would have liked to have seen a lap in the Evo from the original post's video where the driver didn't slide it around a corner and what time it would have been.

 

That doesn't really look special to me... just looks like a white sedan with a tow hook and rims.

 

So you take a few extremely MINOR issues(cam follower, carbon deposits) easily avoidable with proper maintanance and make it sound like that fantastic engine is in fact a time bomb? Toyota had sludge issues for years and is still consider one of the most reliable brands. Please...and complaining about VW not covering cars that are modded(a false claim)... when you own a ....Mitsubishi, is downright hilarious. VW or Subaru don't ask you to pay for clutch replacement on a car that is 2 weeks old, like Mitsubishi. Subaru, VW, are staying behind their products. Mitsubishi ...not so much. Those are the facts.

The GTI is at 195 whp stock. Check your sources.

I gather that when you own a Mitsubishi you are never out of luck.

 

Actually, I posted the facts. They are what they are. If you consider them minor, more power to you. The multitude of folks living with with noticeably decreased performance leading to catastrophic failure, and zero recourse, feel differently.

We're talking WHP. If you don't mind my saying, not realizing the difference points to a lengthy learning curve. FWIW, I was at the dyno when the car ran.

Now that you mention it, my Evo has been the single most reliable car I've owned in 30+ years behind the wheel. Thanks for asking.

 

How are we supposed to take you seriously when you don't know the difference between whp and bhp?

 

I think he is saying some of them make 195whp stock. FWIW, the car makes 200/207, and it pretty underrated from the factory. The way some dynos read around here, I would not doubt that a strong stocker could make 195 somewhere. LOL.

 

That "multitude of folks" are in fact only a few owners. VW 2.0T is a very reliable turbo engine with some of the lowest failure rates even on heavily modified engines.


Yes, we are talking WHP. Just google "stock GTI WHP"...



You must have picked the right color.

Anyway, we should probably get back to bashing Subaru. Those bastards!

 

Ownen 2010 STI SE - After 1 test drive of the 2010 Evo X - Now own the X

-M

 

I'd love to take a test drive, probably the only way I'd be able to split the two now that the STI Sedan is back and the egg 5 door is just another body style. The only thing I dislike about the Evo X would probably be the 5 Speed for highway driving, though the STI sedan's looks are still a bit suspect.

 

you are wrong. and you've put a little too much faith into active rear differentials, but that's a different story. not only will sti oversteer naturally with a slightly different suspension set up, it will power oversteer, and if you put in a beefier mechanical it will REALLY power oversteer.

oversteer/understeer/neutrality IS a characteristic of the car that can be changed by suspension adjustments. subaru sets the sti to understeer from the factory. jeez.

 

For most video reviews of any cars, they take shots of the car powersliding just for the camera, but drive serious when they measure the lap

 

That may be true... but what is the point in discussing "what if's"??? If you change this on the Subie then this would happen... if you change that then that will happen. Point is that the way Subaru makes the car it is an understeering pig.