Evolution X vs 5.0 Mustang GT. Winner = Evo
No, I didn't. Speaking from a performance/dollar perspective only, the Mustang is the winner.
I never compared them in practicality, exclusivity, uniqueness, or their capability in inclement weather. You don't have to convince me that the evo is a capable car. I own one after all. It does everything, and I stress the word EVERYTHING, very well. But in perfect conditions, on a race track, the Mustang wins. End of story.
I never compared them in practicality, exclusivity, uniqueness, or their capability in inclement weather. You don't have to convince me that the evo is a capable car. I own one after all. It does everything, and I stress the word EVERYTHING, very well. But in perfect conditions, on a race track, the Mustang wins. End of story.
Honestly, if I had enough money to pick up a 30k car the Mustang would be THE car. Performance is great stock, comfortable enough for DD and long trips, easy to make power, tons of after market. Its a great car. Period.
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No, I didn't. Speaking from a performance/dollar perspective only, the Mustang is the winner.
I never compared them in practicality, exclusivity, uniqueness, or their capability in inclement weather. You don't have to convince me that the evo is a capable car. I own one after all. It does everything, and I stress the word EVERYTHING, very well. But in perfect conditions, on a race track, the Mustang wins. End of story.
I never compared them in practicality, exclusivity, uniqueness, or their capability in inclement weather. You don't have to convince me that the evo is a capable car. I own one after all. It does everything, and I stress the word EVERYTHING, very well. But in perfect conditions, on a race track, the Mustang wins. End of story.
The Mustang was built for straight sections. The Evo was built for rallying and all weather racing. Around the track a Mustang might be able to simply overpower an Evo on the straight aways and pull a better lap time, but the handling of these two cars is still no where close.
People don't usually buy cars for magazine specs or "perfect conditions" racing. Enthusiasts at least buy a car because of it's capabilities. And while the Mustang 5.0 is a giant leap forward for Mustang's, I still consider it's capabilities (at least the ones I care about) to be far below the Evo.
It is a performance bargain, but IMO even more so the true bargain is the Evo.
The amount of ignorance/fanboyism in this thread is pretty hilarious. If this thread ever makes it over to a Mustang forum, they'll be totally justified in laughing at a fair number of these posts.
When I got my IX, the Evo had 286 hp to the Mustang GT's 300 and weighed considerably less. It could wipe the floor with the Mustang on the strip or on the track in the dry, not to mention in rain/snow. More to the point, a base RS could be had for high 20s new. They were basically direct competitors.
Now, four years later, the Evo has 300 hp to the Mustang GT's 414 and the two weigh just about the same. The "cheapest" Evo also happens to retail for several grand more than the Mustang. I love my Evo to death but there is NO WAY I'd buy a new X if I could get something with the Coyote 5.0 instead.
Also, slamming the new 5.0's track prowess is slamming the E92 M3 as well . The two are pretty much neck and neck around a road course. Considering how many evom guys want to/eventually do upgrade to the E92 M3, that's saying a lot.
When I got my IX, the Evo had 286 hp to the Mustang GT's 300 and weighed considerably less. It could wipe the floor with the Mustang on the strip or on the track in the dry, not to mention in rain/snow. More to the point, a base RS could be had for high 20s new. They were basically direct competitors.
Now, four years later, the Evo has 300 hp to the Mustang GT's 414 and the two weigh just about the same. The "cheapest" Evo also happens to retail for several grand more than the Mustang. I love my Evo to death but there is NO WAY I'd buy a new X if I could get something with the Coyote 5.0 instead.
Also, slamming the new 5.0's track prowess is slamming the E92 M3 as well . The two are pretty much neck and neck around a road course. Considering how many evom guys want to/eventually do upgrade to the E92 M3, that's saying a lot.
I've read that Motor Trend article you're talking about and have seen the video. Speaking of fanboyism, Mustang owners need to be careful not to try to use that article as unilateral proof. While the Boss might be something awesome, I think the M3 will slice the regular Brembo package GT up on most all tracks.
Isn't mag racing fun? Show me a stock Evo and I'll show you that it has it's window sticker still attached. The same for the GT is also true, though.
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Before purchasing my X I was looking at the Mustang as well since they brought back the 5.0. I like the looks and the power of the Mustang but living in a climate where it snows it wouldn't be pratical.
IMO it all boils down to what your into. Choose what you like and rock it!!!
IMO it all boils down to what your into. Choose what you like and rock it!!!
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My best bud who didn't know anything about cars was flabbergasted when I told him the reason the audis and subies weren't having any issues was because they're awd.
Snow tires be damned, if you think rwd and snow tires will get you through the winter up north then I hope you have free towing on your insurance.
im not really sure why they evo interior looks like cheap and sh^t in some of these posts.
For me an Evo looks better inside and out.
and the whole cars:
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at least this way we see what we are actually talking about .... LOL
For me an Evo looks better inside and out.
and the whole cars:
at least this way we see what we are actually talking about .... LOL
didn't realize there were that many differences between the 08 mr and the 2010MR. Looks like it's time to upgrade. I LOVE the new 5.0 though in white but that's absolutely it. I don't like any other stang at all.
I went to Cortese to pick up a couple of things, so I stopped next door and sat in a new GT. Some quick impressions. Interior materials quality is very good, better than I expected. It's on a different level, entirely, next to an EvoX (for example). Fit and finish is excellent. Nothing squeaked when I pushed on the panels and the trim, everything felt solid and significantly more heavy than the car's weight would suggest, especially the doors. The seating position wasn't bad. Nothing like the Evo, but I could live with it. One looks over a relatively high hood; very American. The seats are OK, better than I expected, and there's more room in the back than I'd thought.
The car was equipped with black leather and a matching black headliner. The roof line is low, as is the seating position. In comparison, my Evo gives the impression of being in a MUCH larger, airier space - a night and day difference. For a car this big, the Mustang is small inside, perhaps even a touch cramped. I had maybe 3" of headroom. The black headliner and interior, coupled with a rather inefficient use of space, resulted in a somewhat claustrophobic feeling. It's nothing like my old Scirocco, but, again, for a car this big it feels very small. Not intimate. Small.
Mechanically, there isn't much to report. I could only push the clutch pedal and move the shifter. Both felt great. The pedal, especially. I really want to drive one.
The car was equipped with black leather and a matching black headliner. The roof line is low, as is the seating position. In comparison, my Evo gives the impression of being in a MUCH larger, airier space - a night and day difference. For a car this big, the Mustang is small inside, perhaps even a touch cramped. I had maybe 3" of headroom. The black headliner and interior, coupled with a rather inefficient use of space, resulted in a somewhat claustrophobic feeling. It's nothing like my old Scirocco, but, again, for a car this big it feels very small. Not intimate. Small.
Mechanically, there isn't much to report. I could only push the clutch pedal and move the shifter. Both felt great. The pedal, especially. I really want to drive one.
Bolt-ons and a bottle the Mustang is a 10 Second car. You really can't justify the 10 due to it's increase in weight and no power added plus a weaker bottom end. IDK man. I'd really go Mustang on this, that 5.0 is an Awesome motor.
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The amount of ignorance/fanboyism in this thread is pretty hilarious. If this thread ever makes it over to a Mustang forum, they'll be totally justified in laughing at a fair number of these posts.
When I got my IX, the Evo had 286 hp to the Mustang GT's 300 and weighed considerably less. It could wipe the floor with the Mustang on the strip or on the track in the dry, not to mention in rain/snow. More to the point, a base RS could be had for high 20s new. They were basically direct competitors.
Now, four years later, the Evo has 300 hp to the Mustang GT's 414 and the two weigh just about the same. The "cheapest" Evo also happens to retail for several grand more than the Mustang. I love my Evo to death but there is NO WAY I'd buy a new X if I could get something with the Coyote 5.0 instead.
Also, slamming the new 5.0's track prowess is slamming the E92 M3 as well . The two are pretty much neck and neck around a road course. Considering how many evom guys want to/eventually do upgrade to the E92 M3, that's saying a lot.
When I got my IX, the Evo had 286 hp to the Mustang GT's 300 and weighed considerably less. It could wipe the floor with the Mustang on the strip or on the track in the dry, not to mention in rain/snow. More to the point, a base RS could be had for high 20s new. They were basically direct competitors.
Now, four years later, the Evo has 300 hp to the Mustang GT's 414 and the two weigh just about the same. The "cheapest" Evo also happens to retail for several grand more than the Mustang. I love my Evo to death but there is NO WAY I'd buy a new X if I could get something with the Coyote 5.0 instead.
Also, slamming the new 5.0's track prowess is slamming the E92 M3 as well . The two are pretty much neck and neck around a road course. Considering how many evom guys want to/eventually do upgrade to the E92 M3, that's saying a lot.
Everyone likes to point out the video where the Mustang was compared to the M3, but everyone knows those two cars are on two different levels. Even Ford knows it, they are developing the 302 Boss to be the M3 Killer, they know the GT isn't good enough.
It reminds me of the Top Gear video Evo fan's like to point to, where the Evo FQ400 kept up with the Lambo and then pretend their USDM Evo's are Lambo killers.
It all boils down to magazine racing, all these cars are very different and have very different handling characteristics. From all the testing done with the Mustang I've seen, the handling is still trailing behind the Evo and most definitely the M3.
To be fair, a competently tuned USDM IX with minimal boltons is a quicker/better car than the FQ400. It no trouble matching the FQ's performance envelope and exceeding it in real world conditions.
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Look I know that everybody keeps saying the new 5.0 is faster better deal blah blah...
HEY MAN ITS A FORD OK ...
what is going to happen when your car starts breaking down on you at 75 thousand miles and resale drops big time?
i am talking about build quality.
all you guys have forgotten about that.
thats the reason why i will never own an american car .
each year everybody says oh look at the new mustang its fast and cheap.
look CHEAP...you get what you pay for folks.
lets wait and see if the 5.0 stands up to the test of time..because it may be a little better quality than the past, but im not convinced its better than the evo's quality and reliability
HEY MAN ITS A FORD OK ...
what is going to happen when your car starts breaking down on you at 75 thousand miles and resale drops big time?
i am talking about build quality.
all you guys have forgotten about that.
thats the reason why i will never own an american car .
each year everybody says oh look at the new mustang its fast and cheap.
look CHEAP...you get what you pay for folks.
lets wait and see if the 5.0 stands up to the test of time..because it may be a little better quality than the past, but im not convinced its better than the evo's quality and reliability
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Better yet, compare these two vehicles in the rain, snow, gravel and track conditions. No comparison, evo wins hands down.
Also i believe reliability is what counts and the evo wins there.
Besides simple mods and the 5.0 is in the dust. All im gonna say is Turbocharger.
Also i believe reliability is what counts and the evo wins there.
Besides simple mods and the 5.0 is in the dust. All im gonna say is Turbocharger.