I'm getting to the same point as this guy. But only because I've been doing it everywhere I drive for 5 years now and it's just second nature.

but it's an evo and it's soo much fun to do. Besides you always have better control of the car when in the proper gear.

 

Me too!

 

I drove manual for 12 years. FWIW, I always put it in neutral while I'm braking to a stop. When I'm turning I coast in neutral into the turn, and just before I start turning the car I rev-match and get the car in gear to start accelerating as I hit the mid point of the turn. I only down shift when it's necessary, like coming up on slow traffic on the highway. I've never had any transmission issues whatsoever. Manual tranny's are quite sturdy these days - Especially the GSR's from what I've heard.

 

What you are doing isn't all that rare. It's the easiest to do and it's the gentlest on the parts that are hardest to replace. It just isn't the safest (on the off chance that you're about to be rear-ended, you can't escape quickly) and it's nowhere close to what you want to do when competing. But it's fine and it was probably good for you to say, so we don't freak everyone out with the suggestion that you're a bad person if you don't heel-and-toe down through every gear.

 

ok so let me describe a situation and please tell me if i'm doing it right..

when making a right turn while in 4th gear, I would disengage the clutch, and at same time step on the gas for the RPM to raise up, then switch to 3rd gear.. I'm afraid of riding out the clutch this way so I don't gas it that much. Sometimes that result in rpm dropping and I have to engage the clutch slowly for the rpm to jump back up.. what am I doing wrong?

edited some wrong info

 

If there's no braking involved, it's simple, but the blip of the throttle is after pressing the clutch.

press clutch
while moving shifter, blip throttle
ease off clutch

ps. your description and label for double-clutching is wrong. But who cares?, because we have synchros.

 

You have to give it enough gas so that it matches the next gear down. It shouldn't take any longer than doing a regular downshift so don't worry about riding it out. What I think you are doing is by the time you shift the rpms are already down again defeating the point of the rev match to over come engine braking. Just make sure you kind of learn how high the RPMs are at what speed in which gear then apply the appropriate amount of blip.

I haven't learned double clutching (it's actually clutch in, neutral, clutch out, blip, clutch in, downshift, clutch out). I learned rev matching within the first day, and heel toe took me a couple of days. Still not perfect though but it's going well, feels so rewarding when you heel toe all the way to second and the car rides smooth the entire time with no jerking.

 

m0nkie,

You're confused about one thing, clutch engaged = clutch out, clutch disengaged = clutch pushed in.

You can get used to rev matching by doing it at a steady speed in a straight line. Find a big parking lot and get the car up to say 30 MPH in 4th then disengage the clutch, raise the RPM by about 300 downshift to 3rd then smoothly release (engage) the clutch.

 

I have been ******* the manual on various cars for 30 plus years. Welcome to Club 5MT.

When I make a right / left turn that does not require a stop, I do blipshift (brake and downshift prior to the turn) and maintain throttle but no extra throttle until I near the apex and then increase the throttle through the last part of the turn.

If I am already in the appropriate gear for the turn I simply left foot brake if need.

In a forward line up to a light I either brake with the clutch in and slow easily to a stop or downshift with a blip of the throttle with the clutch disengaged.

Regarding shift braking, in my experience, the only way you are going to smoke the transmission is if you do not blipshift / heeltoe into a turn and use the transmission as a brake, that is, downshifting to third from fourth some where around 80 miles an hour.

If I am hooning a turn, I use a lift-off oversteer technique into the turn and smoke all the tires around the turn. Not recommended on public roads. This may also tax your transmission to the point of failure.

all the best

 

To be honest, most of the time, on the street, when approaching a 90* turn, such as turning onto my street, I break it all up into pieces and don't heel-and-toe (or side-of-foot/side-of-foot). I coast and lightly brake down a bit, then stop braking and do a left-on-clutch/right-on-gas downshift, then go back to more braking, etc, until I'm in second. If I'm in a goofy mood, I left-foot the brake at actual turn-in, then power out quickly. More often I right-foot brake, coast at the apex, and move my foot back over, since I'm not in a hurry, because I'll probably have to do some work in the yard when I actually get home and the heat index is 102.

This is probably bad. I should be practicing a proper heel-and-toe all the time because I stink at it, even with the new seat. To be ready for competition again, I should be carrying speed longer, braking harder and later and (most of all) evenly, and, therefore, heel-and-toeing the downshifts until I'm in second.

I'm not a good person.

And I've been a tad obnoxious in this thread and needed to admit that most of my posts describe what my day-job colleagues call my "ideal" or "normative" self, not my "actual" self.