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Old May 14, 2011, 01:11 PM
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Hypermax, KW v3 or Mono Flex with EDFC

Hi guys,
I would like to change a suspension in my EVO (X MR Touring)and lower it about 1''. Also I would like to install a new wheels. I'm thinking about one of these:

1. HKS Hypermax III
2. KW V3
3. TEIN Mono Block with EDFC

To one of the above I would like to fit 18x9.5 Rota Grid - Hyper Black (5x114,3/ e20/ 73)
- but if it comes to the details - I'm an amateur.

Can anyone of you recommend me a good place that could take care of this ? I mean replace the suspension, and wheels? near to Frisco or DFW area (TX)?

ps. Can anyone tell me which of mentioned suspensions are most for DD. I would like to keep comfort level close to the stock, but also better performance on weekends track.

Thank you in advance and appreciate your help and comments.

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Old May 14, 2011, 02:17 PM
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All three will fit fine with that wheel size. Have you chosen a tire to go with the wheel? Are you going to run the same wheel/tire setup for your track days? How often do you plan to track? If you're tracking with the Rotas, have you considered the Enkei RPF1? They're about 3.5lbs lighter..

The KWs will be the most comfortable for DD and do well at the track as well. The Robispec
version is valved and sprung specifically for the X. The HKS will feel a little stiffer for DD but tracks pretty well. The Tein Mono Flex with EDFC can go from fairly soft for DD to rock hard for track right from the seat, which beats having to **** around with knobs on the struts.

I would say the KWs are the best quality of the three....
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I have the KV V3 one year and I am very pleased with it
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Originally Posted by lannym View Post
All three will fit fine with that wheel size. Have you chosen a tire to go with the wheel? Are you going to run the same wheel/tire setup for your track days? How often do you plan to track? If you're tracking with the Rotas, have you considered the Enkei RPF1? They're about 3.5lbs lighter..

The KWs will be the most comfortable for DD and do well at the track as well. The Robispec
version is valved and sprung specifically for the X. The HKS will feel a little stiffer for DD but tracks pretty well. The Tein Mono Flex with EDFC can go from fairly soft for DD to rock hard for track right from the seat, which beats having to **** around with knobs on the struts.

I would say the KWs are the best quality of the three....
I have not chosen tires yet. Just been thinking abut Potenza RE11 255(265?)/35/18. Also, any sugestions are very welcome.
The old wheels (stock) with tires (Potenza RE760 Sport) I would like to keep for DD. The new setup I want to use on the track.
Regarding Enkei RPF1 and Rotas I like how the Rota Grid looks like and that's all, but maybe you are right and I could try to find better(lighter and nice looking) rims too.

Thanks for your input.

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I'd say 265 for the track. May have to roll your rear fender, no biggie. Grid is nice looking. RPF1 looks good too and weighs like 18.5 lbs.
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Originally Posted by boy36 View Post
I have the KV V3 one year and I am very pleased with it
Can you please explain more, if you could compare them to the stock.
Are they louder, stiffer when driving fast?
Are they louder, more soft when driving slow ?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by lannym View Post
All three will fit fine with that wheel size. Have you chosen a tire to go with the wheel? Are you going to run the same wheel/tire setup for your track days? How often do you plan to track? If you're tracking with the Rotas, have you considered the Enkei RPF1? They're about 3.5lbs lighter..

The KWs will be the most comfortable for DD and do well at the track as well. The Robispec
version is valved and sprung specifically for the X. The HKS will feel a little stiffer for DD but tracks pretty well. The Tein Mono Flex with EDFC can go from fairly soft for DD to rock hard for track right from the seat, which beats having to **** around with knobs on the struts.

I would say the KWs are the best quality of the three....
Are you speaking from personal experience on the evo X or jut what you hear about KW for other applications? Cause everything I hear about the evo X for the KW V3 is that they're pretty rough. I know most other applications they ride pretty smooth, but KW decided to go pretty aggressive with the evo X. Robispec is a different story, but thy need to be adjusted right for a good ride

And everything I heard about the HKS (non sport) is that they're great on he street and are a bit soft for the track...

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All KWs need to be adjusted correctly. From my personal experience, I would say many who have had issues with the KWs were because of learning how to adjust them. The stock KW spring rates ar the same 8/9 that Robi uses for his streets. No doubt the valving is different but have a hard time believing the stock ones can't be made to ride pretty comfortable given mine ride pretty nicely and have higher spring rates (though valved differently). Plenty of others on the BB that have said the are happy with the stock ones so I will let them comment on those I guess. They do offer a life time warranty and the others you mention do not.

If you want robi spec streets there were a used set for sale on this site. Robi also offers a lifetime warrenty on his versions so you should feel ok buying used.

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RobiSpec KM V3s FTW!
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HKS ride like pogo sticks as well as Tein. KW has a far better damper.
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have you driven or rode in an Evo X with HKS non-sport?
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i think there are fundamental differences between European designed suspension vs Japanese suspension.

HKS/TEIN/Zeal/Cusco etc, i've noticed they go for really high spring rates with dampeners. My experience with KWs has been the opposite as they tend to have a softer spring rate compared to their japanese counterparts and spend more time with tuning the dampening aspect.. perhaps it might be due to the roads in those specific counties, but Japanese circuits are really smooth compared to the streets here in the USA.. european roads vary due to the different seasons and maybe this is a reason, i'm just guessing here..

however, my past experience with a different platform (my Z), the JDM coils were just too harsh for DD, even with the proper alignment and corner balance... but once i switched over to the KW, it felt much better and thats one of the reasons i went KW with the X this time around. the KW V3s have plenty of dampening for the occational track use and is very compfy for DD use. i've been very happy with them.
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HKS hipermax 3( non sport ) got reinforced rubber upper mounts that reduce harshness during drivng + reduce road sound , grat setup for DD .

REVIEW from ZK on hks coilovers :
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ermax-3-a.html
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Mono flex for tens are awesome, rides the bumps smoothly and feel great
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^x2. Not sure if the EDFC is compatible in the X though. It seems like there is very little space in the rear. Can anyone confirm?
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