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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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If you changed the ride height, you need a new alignment.
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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You need more rebound if you have too much bounce. Ajust a little at a time.
I'll try that, thanks.

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If you changed the ride height, you need a new alignment.
It was aligned after the coils were put on. I dropped the front maybe another 1/2 inch and the rear another 1/4 inch. Don't know if another alignment would be worth the time/money?
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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you need an alignment man.

Are you still happy with your purchase?

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedBoost!
It was aligned after the coils were put on. I dropped the front maybe another 1/2 inch and the rear another 1/4 inch. Don't know if another alignment would be worth the time/money?
Until someone publishes the bump-toe curve for these cars - and I search for it every few months - I would get a new alignment for almost any change in static ride height.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 06:30 AM
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Yep. New alignment. Unless you like eating $800 in tires every 6 months.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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@NeedBoost, any more updates with new settings dialed in?? I'm curious as to the differences between the Streets and V3's.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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@NeedBoost, any more updates with new settings dialed in?? I'm curious as to the differences between the Streets and V3's.
Yep! Springs have settled nicely and I've got the bump and rebound set where I'm happy. Basically gave the rears 2 clicks more rebound than KW's suggested settings (so instead of 12 clicks open, they are 10).

Just about every time my wife is in the car she has to hear me mention how happy I am with the suspension now. I'm sure she's about ready to punch me in the face at this point, but its better than me complaining I guess...

The handling is, simply put, sick. The ride quality - although a little more "bouncy" since it's lower than it was with the H&Rs - is better than I could have hoped for.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Please note that good springs do not settle. Instead, they burrow into the rubber isolators and/or undo mistakes made during installation. Only crappy springs settle.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowa999
Please note that good springs do not settle. Instead, they burrow into the rubber isolators and/or undo mistakes made during installation. Only crappy springs settle.
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oh what people will read/believe on the internet these days
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Please note that good springs do not settle. Instead, they burrow into the rubber isolators and/or undo mistakes made during installation. Only crappy springs settle.
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oh what people will read/believe on the internet these days

So the manufacturers of "good" springs have wizards in their engineering department?

Honestly, I'm a sucker for a good sales pitch, but you are basically saying physics don't apply to good/expensive springs which I can't buy into. It's just a matter of basic design + science + time.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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Oh, please tell me about the "physics" that says that all springs - including good ones - will decrease in free length and/or rate after being cycled a few times. I'm in the mood for a surprise.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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So your point to posting the original comment was just to clarify the meaning of "settling"? I'm confused.

Yes, springs "settle" after being installed. Whether they "settle" into softer materials in the assembly or the springs themselves "settle" due to having 3k-4k lbs of constant weight on them, what was the point of your comment?

I'm guessing you read my "the springs have settle nicely" observation and thought it was a good time to try making someone else look "less informed" than yourself.

Springs/Coilovers "settle" after installation, period. I have lowered 12 of the 14 cars I've owned and guess what, after 500-600 miles every single one was lower than it was immediately after installation.

Thanks for your super awesome input which had a usefulness factor of 0.
I'm so ****ing sick of elitists on these websites.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedBoost!
So the manufacturers of "good" springs have wizards in their engineering department?

Honestly, I'm a sucker for a good sales pitch, but you are basically saying physics don't apply to good/expensive springs which I can't buy into. It's just a matter of basic design + science + time.
Why would the springs "settle"? The load on them is still the same (weight of the car) so if they obey the laws of physics (hooke's law) then they should always be at the same ride height if you dont increase the weight of the car. Is there some part of the physics that i am missing? But nonetheless, great choice going with the KW Var. 3. I have mine sitting in my trunk and will be installing them this weekend.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Gosh. This turned heavier than expected.

Cars often ride lower a few days after new springs are installed.

Many people think that this is because, during those few days, some change occurs in the springs, themselves.

This might be true for some crappy springs, but it isn't true for good springs.

Instead, the reason that a car sometimes rides lower a few days after you install good springs is that the springs have burrowed into the isolators and/or the springs finally become properly placed in their perches.

That is all I wanted to say.

Why would anyone care about this? Because it means that you can install new springs and go get an alignment the same day. But, to do this (safely), you must make sure that you seat the springs correctly and - if you still run isolators - get them as dug into them as they will go. Otherwise, ever with good springs, you car's static ride height may change, so you should wait a few days (of driving) before getting the alignment.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedBoost!
So the manufacturers of "good" springs have wizards in their engineering department?

Honestly, I'm a sucker for a good sales pitch, but you are basically saying physics don't apply to good/expensive springs which I can't buy into. It's just a matter of basic design + science + time.
Good/expensive springs probably use better material, thus making them less susceptible to plastic deformation due to fatigue.
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