This opinion of yours , based on what?

 

Right. Because anyone can't just cast a few combinations of letters on their wheels and claim whatever they want. Kind of like "DOT approved" aftermarket headlights.

Yeah, running a multi-million dollar international business who's whole reputation hinges on "engineering" doesn't give me any experience in what "engineering" means.

You can't seriously believe that Rota/Varrstoen spends the millions of dollars necessary to put proper work in to their wheels. There's no way. Copying a design another company engineered doesn't count. If it did, I'd be out of business because I get knocked off all the time, but the reason none of the copycatters can get anywhere in my market is because I have proper engineering behind my products instead of "well, it looks about right".

 

I think rota does more manufacturing then engeneering.
If they would do engeneering, they didnt have to copy anything. But since they copying, they dont need to engeneering. Make sense?
Manufacturing is already given, there is little to nothing to engeneer stuff. Casting etc is a well known procedure. They dont show any spectacular in manufacturing either...

And if you sum the whole things up, you find out, they not that cheap either... lol
Which should be they strong point....

Rob.

 

Excellent point. An entry into international markets is just like selling on ebay. The whole certification thing, by the Germans and the Japanese no less, is a big hoax perpetuated to allow for undeserved scoring on the poseur/showcar circuit. Thanks for the wisdom.

You sell parts? I once worked for a law firm. Does that make me a lawyer?

 

That's not what I'm saying. What I AM saying is that I have a hard time believing that Rota/Varrstoen/etc. actually takes the time and spends the money to get actual certification. Either that or the rules for getting certification are rather weak, or they manage to just squeak by.

Nope.

 

They can sure, but that is not the case here. So please instead of sounding ignorant why don't you read up.

 

I see we're either back to the international conspiracy, or an assertion of ignorance based on a supposition of expertise. Oxymoronic? Sure.

Edit: Just out of curiosity, all this is being done to what end? The buyer knows what wheels he's paying for, the market values (say) Volk much higher than its Rota counterpart, so who is being fooled? Who is being cheated or victimized?

From where I sit, all this boils down to the poseur quotient. It's about appearance, even though the wheels are very different in their construction. If the wheel-fancier community, if you will, valued performance - meaning, actually driving the car - the difference between the products would be self-explanatory. OTOH, as the emphasis seems to lie with parking the car - ie. the superficial - the focus lies solely with looks, all other aspects be damned. In essence, this is about someone spending less to get the same look, and that's what fuels the inane posts asserting the ever-enlightening and original, "Friends don't let friends drive Rotas."

 

I was in the same boat as you when i was wheel shopping. i wanted Volks, but was gonna get Rota due to the price. i ended up meeting in the middle and getting Rays Gram Lights 57DR and I couldent be happier. you get a great name brand and at a good price.

 

Check out some of these wheels http://www.enkei.com/

 

Def liking the RAIJINs' those and the RSM9 are prob the only Enkei wheels I can stomach even looking at.

Still they are cast wheels though just like a ROTA (before someone goes there)

 

Actually if you park side by side , you can tell which one is the rota.
To be approved for something doesnt say much today, really its a moot point. Its like crash ratings. Where you would be sit in case of accident , 5 star economy car or a 4 star full size suv? By rating and number so as certification the small econo box is better, but really IS better? Lol
To meeting with a minimum requierments is one thing . Just because something gets a certifyed that doesnt mean they are equal in performance , quality , etc. Only means they can be used on public road... so as some race tires are not dot approved... that means they are garbige or cant be used on public road?

I mean come on guys, dont play stupid here , with dot approved or tuv approved etc . Those flags are really not bench marks, they proove only one thing. You can legally drive on the road with them. Just as you can do with a metal wheels ....so what is the accomplishment here?

 

Also to consider there is that the Rotas, though pretty awesome looking for the price are a) not as light weight as the TE37's I do believe and b) WON'T hold their value when you sell them back like the Rays will... however I puke at the thought of spending over 3G's new on any set of rims ever. I've always been a motor guy 1st then outward appearance. No one cares when you see tail lights in a race doesn't matter if ur rockin stock enkei's or volks.

 

Also to consider there is that the Rotas, though pretty awesome looking for the price are a) not as light weight as the TE37's I do believe and b) WON'T hold their value when you sell them back like the Rays will... however I puke at the thought of spending over 3G's new on any set of rims ever. I've always been a motor guy 1st then outward appearance. No one cares when you see tail lights in a race doesn't matter if ur rockin stock enkei's or volks.

Sorry... i keep forgetting to change my dang signature

 

Hey guys, i need help with something. i want to buy the VOLK's TE37 SL, but anyone knows where can i get them at the cheapest price? because i will ship them to the middle east and i want to save up on the price because shipping cost will be a MoFu!

PM or Quote me please.

 

get the rotas until you can afford the 37's