Just because a company is big in the japanese market does not make it great, some of the best companies in the world are small shops run by guys who love what they do. RRE and Buschur are amazing companies run by guys who don't BS you on making pretty parts, they make parts that work.

 

Does any lancer owner on this site not have the brown stain of rrm on their nose? Besides that, ive had my car for like 3 years, and only recently ( since march of this year) ive started modding it because of my financial stability (your tax dollars $$$$) and no more warranty.. and i was expecting to see a big market for this car, i was really dissapointed, and actually kinda angry about the lack of support for our car, where i live, i see more of these cars than scions and cobalts (even though theyre new cars) combined, but our market is this big:<--> and theirs' is this big: <-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> (my graphical representation), so, i dont know

 

i respect bushcur, but i got in the game too late to use 'em

 

I hear ya on the $$! I personally don't like the body style of lancers after 03.. so if I was a new consumer trying for the same look i can see why the other cars are popular... plus the lack of support goes both ways.. we need to have action from both sides... no pun intended

 

K buddy you're new here, you've been a member for what a month? You haven't actually been around for all the things RRM has done for us. Without companies like RRM, RPW and Buschur we'd be nowhere, we'd have a few intakes and exhausts to choose from, and thats it, everything else would be custom. I suggest you learn some respect before you run your mouth off.

 

I could call Ross's Co. (they make pistons) and ask them to make me a custom set of high compression forged aluminum pistons. Maybe they would do it or not. They will have to guess on the specs and then I would install them in my car. Maybe it would work or maybe not. If not there goes my $700.00

RRM and RPW are two of the best companies out here that make sure each product will work fine on our cars. People could save some $ by doing custom work IF they have time and IF they could accept the consequences if something goes wrong. It's like driving without insurance. You will save a lot of $$$ but if you will get into an accident then you are F%$@.

 

respect for an overpriced aftermarket supplier, one thats in austrailia, and one thats actually supposed to be pretty good even though they stopped supporting us (according so some of the evos i know), oh, and just because i joined a month ago, doesnt mean i dont read the forums, but lets not argue about that
"brown stain of rrm on their nose" thats classic

 

You can still get wiseco pistons, you just have to get them custom ordered.

 

I think Alchemist covered all the details with his post.

 

You're really not going to last long with this whiney kid attitude. If you don't like the price, don't buy the product, its that simple. It seems to me that you're not complaining about the lack of support, but more the lack of questionable quality products at bargain basement prices. I don't mind spending the extra cash to get a product that has the entire shop's support behind it. RPW is in Australia, so what? They still make great stuff, but it to is quite pricey. Buschur dropped out because people did not buy their products, no matter how good the price. No matter what you do people will always complain about something. If you want stuff for cheap, go buy a honda otherwise stop complaining, you're getting annoying with your emo crap. Last time I checked companies like HKS, Greddy, JIC, etc. were even more pricey, you're living in a dream world if you expect them to beat the prices we have right now.

 

if you dont like what im saying, then stop responding, but this is all part of my dream, if you dont like it, well....youve got that right, but if you do agree, id like to hear your opinion of how we could get our car into a bigger aftermarket, oh yeah, i dont like hondas, theyre too commercial, theyre like comparing the backstreet boys (honda), to audioslave (the lancer)

 

If you get a brown nose from respecting a company that gives us the few things we have than most of us would smell pure sh_t. You haven't represented a single viable reason to dislike RRE in a single post. High prices come with things worth buying. Search eBay, people make a ton of parts for our cars, it's just a matter of what's worth buying and what's not.

 

To reiterate what Alchemist has already said but in my own way... I disagree with this statement above. It's because of RRM why things are the way they are. When this board first popped up I came from the Mirage side and introduced it to RPW. RPW has had years upon years of modifying experience on Mitsu 4G9X series engines beyond any other company that I know of. When they were trying to sell us parts they got a whole bunch of negative feedback from the newly formed RRM following.

RPW has hung in there though for what reason I have no idea.

Then comes along another little known company by the name of RIPP which happens to try to develop a supercharger which will be in direct competition to the RRM turbo kits already being widely sold. Low and behold the RRM following hounds the RIPP efforts clean off the board. Even when the supercharger kit for the Lancer was finally introduced RIPP had to open their own forum to post feedback without the substantial turbo naysayers coming into their posts and ruining any useful info that could be provided to sell such a product.

But let me back track. BUSCHUR probably the first to actually sell products for the lancer somehow got lost in the RRM buzz. We need not remind everyone of the Import Tuner Buschur article where the Lancer was first intoduced to the tuner market. There was another blue Lancer in that magazine that had been modified by another tuner whose name slips me at this time but even they have moved on. Buschur pressed on for a few years as we know until the fateful incident with the pistons as Alchemist has already said. That was their last straw when they made a product specifically requested by the board that went almost completely unsupported. I partly blame buschur though. They were unwilling to engage in any kind of business war with RRM. I suppose that's a useless task anyway.

Add to this all of the Lancer owners who gave up the struggle and simply bought performance out the box with the Evo or simply moved onto something else and you see why it's so difficult to get anything made. Any Newbie that comes on the board can only seem to find RRM posts in all kinds of threads but to find the other companies they'd have to do some real digging.

I guess when I read this it all really boils down to us the consumers. If we were more selective on what we bought and from whom then I am sure things would have better. Simply following one easy path has gotten us in trouble. "If so and so doesn't make something then that part isn't necessary for performance" has left us exactly where we are today.

If anyone disagrees with me they are free to. Much of what I have said is factual and the rest is my opinion. Read through old threads and you will see for yourself.

WADAD

 

You say you don't like hondas because they're too mainstream, yet you want the aftermarket community to embrace the lancer? Do you have any business sense? A company's not going to make parts for a car with a tiny market, its not profitable. The big names like HKS, Greddy,etc. need to sell huge amounts of a product to make money, they can't survive by selling 200 exhausts or 100 intakes a year, which realistically is the kind of numbers the lancer community would produce. You've come on here and done nothing but bad mouth the very companies that have kept us going. In all likeliness in a months time you'll be turning to one of them to get you some parts, unless you're happy with your greddy exhaust and Injen intake, cause thats about as far as you'll get with the engine without RRM or RPW. Your worse than GreenPsycho, at least he actually had some experience with these companies before he got his panties in a bunch.

 

Alchemist is SOOO correct here.. When people thirst for a part to come out.. they beg and beg and beg.... Then when the part is made... NO one buys it. This is why Buscher gave up on our community. if we ask for stuff from theese company's we must buy it.