Id probly go with the eclipse if i had to choose....because the EVO X wont really be an evo in my eyes...no 4G63, auto, etc....it will be more like a mitsu M3......the eclipse on the other hand would be basicly an evo IX with different sheet metal....

 

Sorry that Evo concept is ugly as sin. I don't really like the 4g eclipse, but i've seen em done nice

 

If they price the new Evo X at 35-40k and the GSX around 28-30k, I think there could be a market for both. This may be a poor reference, but it would be like a camaro ss or a vette. I'd rather have the vette, but I'll be the SS cause I can't afford the vette and it would be close in performance.

I would love to see the GSX built.

 

True, but girls noticed my 99 GSX more than my evo. Then when they would hear the exhaust, BOV, wastegate and how fast it was, they were even more interested.

 

With already 7 pages on an older thread, my post will get lost with the rest, but with the options, I would unfortunatly say GSX. Coming from the DSM world, as most have, know what a DSM is capable of. I say unfortunatly because the Evo is obviously "better" then a GSX, however I'm absolutly no fan of the X. Looks terrible IMHO, and no 4G63, to me that's the end of the Evo.

DSM can make great power same with the Evo. GSX will get more looks because it's more known to people who know nothing about cars, for now at least, and an Evo (though mean looking to me) is a 4 door lancer.

Now if you had put a IX instead of the X, I'm sure as everyone will agree the IX is better. Sure it costs more, but you get a faster, more reliable, "warrantied", longer lasting beast. For just $1.5k you can have a mid 12sec Evo for reliable daily driving. Sure you can get mid 12sec GSX for not too much money, but it surely won't be a reliable daily driver!

The general price of a clean, stock, low mileage, "adult driven" 2Gb (97-99) gsx is pathetic. They go for $12k with 80k miles. A 1G with a rebuilt/low mileage 6bolt can go for $6k because there's a high demand for an AWD DSM, especially 6bolt block. An awd dsm will always be a nice classic car with potential in my eyes, but the prices are through the roof, get an Evo, and in 10 years it will be just as wanted as a DSM and it will hold the price very well (only time will tell for sure).

My 2 cents.
/End of ramble!

 

LOL, how can you even say that Evo IX is better than X considering that X is not even out yet and won't be here for another few good months? When 4G63 came out in 1988, it was difficult to mod as it was a new design, it's not like in 1988 they already knew how to get 900HP out of it.

Concept X looks wayyyyy better than the current IX and that is a simple fact, just go see the Concept X live, all you nay sayers would change your mind. As far as performance of the X goes, no one really knows but somehow I have a feeling it will be more capable than the current Evo. World Engines were designed by Chrysler, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi, every design can be modified to specific needs, it's not like the 2.0l engine that is found in Caliber will be exactly the same as found in the next Lancer. Besides, World Engines are really top of the line compared to it's current competition, high horespower, high torque, and gas efficiency, plus all-aluminum build meaning less weight than cast iron, and when properly shaped it can be as capable as cast iron engine.

 

I can easily say it. To each his own right? Apparently not. So I'm not a fan of the Xs looks. So what? I love the looks of the IX and it's my right to. How can you say the Evo X looks better then the IX!? Because it's your opinion, maybe the X will start to grow on me, but for now it's not. I think people are insane to like the 4g eclipse, but I respect their opinion, no need to thrash out because you feel differently. And no, it's not a simple fact, just a simple opinion, who really cares?

Did I ever say that the Evo X engine will go nowhere in the performance world? Did I ever say it will never hold up like the 4G63 has? NO! I did go overboard by saying it'll the end of the Evo and it was probably taken wrong, so I take that line back and admit it was wrong. No one knows how the Xs engine will do, only time will tell. Who knows, maybe it'll blow the 4G63 out of the water and make it so in 10 years people will start saying 4Gwhat? Then again, maybe it will plunge and kill the Evo.

Also exactly, how long did it take for people to realize 4G63s potential? It could be a few years until the X can be heavily modified and prove it's "worthiness". It is about time that the 4G63 retires, it had a long and very successful lifetime, but everything must die sometime. But the unknowns of the X are to good for me to wait, when I can get a IX now that I know I'll love and never regret, and if the time comes and I want one, then upgrade to a X.

It's not called the Evolution for nothing, but we'll have to wait and see for the X. Now back to the poster, again, I suggest get a IX. If in 4 years the Evo X is even more superior and you wish you had one, then trade it in for a X.

I'm now done with this thread as it's getting way off topic and I didn't mean to cause a stir.


***EDIT***
Holy crap, I seriously need to read threads before I respond. Didn't realize it meant "4G gsx". In that case I'd rather go X (still top choice would be IX, but not an option). 4G eclipses put shame to Mitsu (again, my opinion!). Stupid me!! Sorry guys.

 

being that the X is going to have a new engine designation, and if mitsu were smart and decided to revisit the 4g63 in the next eclipse, i think the decision would be a little tougher for me to choose between the two... I'de probably still go with the X, but maybe have the eclipse as a commuter jp

 

Well I might have been a bit out of line too but it's just that so many people on this forum already are comparing the current Evo with the X when the X isn't even out yet. Sure we have Concept X but that is just a concept, if I had to guess it would be that they will change Concept X a bit, it may have the same overall shape and outlines but I bet there will be a couple of adjustments before the final Evo X is ready for production. And no one knows anything about the next Evo engine (only speculation that it may be one of the World Engines but people don't realize that Hyundai, Chrysler, and Mitsubishi will mod the design to their own specifications/needs and manufacture them on their own so they really are not the same).

As far as 4G63 goes, people didn't know it's full potential when it came out in 1988, it took them a couple of years of trial and error to figure out how to get as much power as possible. But in all reality people on this forums love horsepower too much. A 900HP Evo (considering the amount of money spent on it to get to 900HP) isn't a whole lot faster than a stock EVO IX, I mean we are talking here maybe about 1-1.5sec.

Besides, I would rather have 400 reliable constant horsepower that are actually transfarable to the road than a 900 uncontrollable burst. Besides 900HP is only good for drag racing. My favorite type of racing is rally, swirly little roads, takes a whole lot more skill (400HP is more than enough but it's more about steering/handling/stability) to drive a rally than to go in a straight line in a drag race, wouldn't you agree?

But then again, what if Mitsubishi would come out with a brilliant idea of offering EVO X with two different engines, the beloved 2.0l 4G63, and a larger 2.4l turbocharged engine of yet unknown potential. Subaru is doing this with Imprezas, they offer 2.0l and 2.5l.

Anyway, about current Eclipse, I dislike the 4G Eclipse too but then again, I didn't like Concept-E that much either.

 

Ummm, yeah right.

You have got to be kidding.

It gets on my nerves when people have already written off the X as ugly, or frumpy, or not a true Evo when they haven't seen it or driven it yet, but I am coming to grips with the reality that it is in most people's human nature to hate on something they don't have or don't completely understand. The same thing happened before the IX's came out - people thought the MIVEC was pointless, and would just get in the way. Annd before the VIII was launched, people said it was weak and the front bumper killed it. I think the best "styling" change Mitsu could do for the 4G Eclipse it is put an Evo engine under the hood, and give it AWD. I bet a lot of people's opinion of it would change.

 

Well I might have been a bit out of line too but it's just that so many people on this forum already are comparing the current Evo with the X when the X isn't even out yet. Sure we have Concept X but that is just a concept, if I had to guess it would be that they will change Concept X a bit, it may have the same overall shape and outlines but I bet there will be a couple of adjustments before the final Evo X is ready for production. And no one knows anything about the next Evo engine (only speculation that it may be one of the World Engines but people don't realize that Hyundai, Chrysler, and Mitsubishi will mod the design to their own specifications/needs and manufacture them on their own so they really are not the same).

As far as 4G63 goes, people didn't know it's full potential when it came out in 1988, it took them a couple of years of trial and error to figure out how to get as much power as possible. But in all reality people on this forums love horsepower too much.

EDIT: A 900HP Evo (considering the amount of money spent on it to get to 900HP) isn't a whole lot faster than a stock EVO IX (I may be wrong but 0-60 time accoring to Mitsus website for Evo IX MR is about 4.6 sec., does anyone know 0-60 time of the 900HP Evo and the amount of money spent on it?) I mean for the money spent on modding the car to 900HP I would rather buy an exotic car such as a Porsche. So basically the question that remains, is it worth to spend all that money in modifications to get 900HP which I suspect is not very reliable?

Besides, I would rather have 400 reliable constant horsepower that are actually transfarable to the road than a 900 uncontrollable burst. Besides 900HP is only good for drag racing. My favorite type of racing is rally, swirly little roads, takes a whole lot more skill (400HP is more than enough but it's more about steering/handling/stability) to drive a rally than to go in a straight line in a drag race, wouldn't you agree?

But then again, what if Mitsubishi would come out with a brilliant idea of offering EVO X with two different engines, the beloved 2.0l 4G63, and a larger 2.4l turbocharged engine of yet unknown potential. Subaru is doing this with Imprezas, they offer 2.0l and 2.5l.

Anyway, about current Eclipse, I dislike the 4G Eclipse too but then again, I didn't like Concept-E that much either.

 

heh mitsubishi cant handle warranty work on the Evo let alone - why would they dig themselves another hole and make another awd turbo car in the US. as far as I see it - I dont think i'd by another Mitsubishi ever again

 

Uhh you guys... no one knows what the X is going to look like. I can promise you that it "WILL NOT" look like the concept X or that orange X pic floating around. I showed my Mitsu rep both pics and he said it looks nothing like either of them. He said it looks like a cross between the current one and the concept x. More sleek but still looks like an evo design with the bulging fenders, hood, big wing, etc... So no need to compare the IX with the X until we get concrete photos.

 

Why to worry about something that might never even happen... Sorry , I am not even going answer this one. Lets first see if we get any Evo 10, then lets see if Mitsubishi will stay strong in the USA and not bankrupcy then wait if they ever release another Eclipse AWD turbo... until then this topics is irrelevant.


Carlos

 

I recently went to my mitsu dealer in my town a few weeks ago to pick up some parts. I ran into the general sales manager and he noticed my evo and asked if I was interested in the evo X..... Anyhow, he said that they had already received pics of what the new evo was going to look like and that it was going to be available end of this year and early 07. I mentioned to him that I heard about the 9.5 SE and wanted to clarify if it was that or actually the "evo X" and he stated that it was the evo X..... Can anyone else shed some light on this.?