Rx-8 vs evolution
Like most are saying, it just depends on what you want and what you like.
Those who say that this one or that one is ugly or pretty should be completely ignored. Beauty is in the eye, and no one should ever try to persuade you otherwise.
Those who say that this one or that one is ugly or pretty should be completely ignored. Beauty is in the eye, and no one should ever try to persuade you otherwise.
It's interesting how many posters refer to the Evo as "fast" and the RX-8 as "slow." This calls for a refresher course in the meaning of those terms, at least for some:
In the usual motorhead jargon, "fast" means that the car has a high top speed and/or is capable of high sustained speeds around a track. The RX-8 is pretty fast under this definition, especially the second part of it:
As I said below, even with its low torque it was capable of putting down lap times identical to the much torquier E46 M3 and the Nissan 350Z. Race drivers consistently compliment its road course ability, and its exceptional balance and handling allow it to takes turns at remarkable speeds. Also, on long freeway drives, you can easily go well over 100 MPH without any stress or drama, while the quick steering and short wheelbase and stiff shocks of the Evo make it a little more fatiguing at those high sustained speeds.
By contrast, "quick" usually refers to accelerative ability, and the RX-8 is not especially quick by today's standards. You can get 5.9 to 60 or 14.5 in the quarter if you really rev it up and beat on it, but otherwise the times are lower.
So, just to be clear, the Evo is much quicker than the RX-8, but not necessarily much faster.
In the usual motorhead jargon, "fast" means that the car has a high top speed and/or is capable of high sustained speeds around a track. The RX-8 is pretty fast under this definition, especially the second part of it:
As I said below, even with its low torque it was capable of putting down lap times identical to the much torquier E46 M3 and the Nissan 350Z. Race drivers consistently compliment its road course ability, and its exceptional balance and handling allow it to takes turns at remarkable speeds. Also, on long freeway drives, you can easily go well over 100 MPH without any stress or drama, while the quick steering and short wheelbase and stiff shocks of the Evo make it a little more fatiguing at those high sustained speeds.
By contrast, "quick" usually refers to accelerative ability, and the RX-8 is not especially quick by today's standards. You can get 5.9 to 60 or 14.5 in the quarter if you really rev it up and beat on it, but otherwise the times are lower.
So, just to be clear, the Evo is much quicker than the RX-8, but not necessarily much faster.
Mazdaspeed RX8?... Well, its a possibility.
RX8's just have no toque in the low end, but a blower would really fix that and I see that the australians and Axial Flow have done that.
The "fun" factor comes to play when you can keep the revs tat 9K RPM, especially when rotaries are "Free Revving."
RX8's just have no toque in the low end, but a blower would really fix that and I see that the australians and Axial Flow have done that.
The "fun" factor comes to play when you can keep the revs tat 9K RPM, especially when rotaries are "Free Revving."
Originally Posted by Rod Munch
It's interesting how many posters refer to the Evo as "fast" and the RX-8 as "slow." This calls for a refresher course in the meaning of those terms, at least for some:
In the usual motorhead jargon, "fast" means that the car has a high top speed and/or is capable of high sustained speeds around a track. The RX-8 is pretty fast under this definition, especially the second part of it:
As I said below, even with its low torque it was capable of putting down lap times identical to the much torquier E46 M3 and the Nissan 350Z. Race drivers consistently compliment its road course ability, and its exceptional balance and handling allow it to takes turns at remarkable speeds. Also, on long freeway drives, you can easily go well over 100 MPH without any stress or drama, while the quick steering and short wheelbase and stiff shocks of the Evo make it a little more fatiguing at those high sustained speeds.
By contrast, "quick" usually refers to accelerative ability, and the RX-8 is not especially quick by today's standards. You can get 5.9 to 60 or 14.5 in the quarter if you really rev it up and beat on it, but otherwise the times are lower.
So, just to be clear, the Evo is much quicker than the RX-8, but not necessarily much faster.
In the usual motorhead jargon, "fast" means that the car has a high top speed and/or is capable of high sustained speeds around a track. The RX-8 is pretty fast under this definition, especially the second part of it:
As I said below, even with its low torque it was capable of putting down lap times identical to the much torquier E46 M3 and the Nissan 350Z. Race drivers consistently compliment its road course ability, and its exceptional balance and handling allow it to takes turns at remarkable speeds. Also, on long freeway drives, you can easily go well over 100 MPH without any stress or drama, while the quick steering and short wheelbase and stiff shocks of the Evo make it a little more fatiguing at those high sustained speeds.
By contrast, "quick" usually refers to accelerative ability, and the RX-8 is not especially quick by today's standards. You can get 5.9 to 60 or 14.5 in the quarter if you really rev it up and beat on it, but otherwise the times are lower.
So, just to be clear, the Evo is much quicker than the RX-8, but not necessarily much faster.
The Evo is quicker in a straight line, but it's extra 400 lbs is felt through the corners. I also realize it doesn't take much in mods to make the Evo walk away from the S, but basically stock to stock the cars are comparable as much as a lot of you on here don't want to hear it. Don't get me wrong. I love the Evo … so much I traded for another one!
Exactly. I test-drove an S2000 once and it seemed quite similar to my former RX-8 with regard to the peaky, no-torque power band, high-revving engine and superb chassis and balance.
For me, I gave up the RX-8 not because of performance issues. Performance-wise it's a world class car, even if it's not a dragster. But to me it just lacked the rough edge that I like in a sports car. I need something raspier.
For me, I gave up the RX-8 not because of performance issues. Performance-wise it's a world class car, even if it's not a dragster. But to me it just lacked the rough edge that I like in a sports car. I need something raspier.
i've also driven the rx8 for a good amount of time, as well as gotten good seat time in the passenger seat.
that said, i'd take an s2000 over the rx8 anyday. it is also peaky, but much more powerful. also the rx8 though balanced, felt as if the chassis wasn't stiff enough.
the Evo achieves the same or better handling capabilites of the rx8/s2k with its AWD grip. so it's really up to the OP to decide if he prefers to go through a corner fast with balance and weight, or grip from all 4 tires. generally the former will give u better corner entry, while the latter gives u better corner exit (stock vs. stock)
straightline acceleration need not to be discussed here. stock for stock the rx8 will be left behind by either Evo or s2k, and the s2k will be able to slightly pull an Evo VIII at higher speeds. however, dump a couple hundred dollars in any Evo, and the outcome will change.
IMO one will only pick an rx8 over the Evo if he prefers the sexy exterior styling, and the awesome interior styling (everything Carlos said), and the more comfortable ride. maybe the uniqueness of the Renesis and the free-revving motor....but all out performance, u can't go wrong with an Evo. the Evo has it all over the rx8 in this regard, and we're not even talking about power per dollar (mods).
good luck to the OP
that said, i'd take an s2000 over the rx8 anyday. it is also peaky, but much more powerful. also the rx8 though balanced, felt as if the chassis wasn't stiff enough.
the Evo achieves the same or better handling capabilites of the rx8/s2k with its AWD grip. so it's really up to the OP to decide if he prefers to go through a corner fast with balance and weight, or grip from all 4 tires. generally the former will give u better corner entry, while the latter gives u better corner exit (stock vs. stock)
straightline acceleration need not to be discussed here. stock for stock the rx8 will be left behind by either Evo or s2k, and the s2k will be able to slightly pull an Evo VIII at higher speeds. however, dump a couple hundred dollars in any Evo, and the outcome will change.
IMO one will only pick an rx8 over the Evo if he prefers the sexy exterior styling, and the awesome interior styling (everything Carlos said), and the more comfortable ride. maybe the uniqueness of the Renesis and the free-revving motor....but all out performance, u can't go wrong with an Evo. the Evo has it all over the rx8 in this regard, and we're not even talking about power per dollar (mods).
good luck to the OP
Originally Posted by aloxide
Many answers are like they are two different cars,you cant compare them.
Mazda designed the 8 to meet a particular market need. Mitsu designed the Evo for one particular purpose. The only thing they really have in common is their sports car monkier.
What happens is that people try to make the 8 into something it isn't, namely the next version of the FD. When the journey takes too much time, frustration, and money, they settle on the fact that it's good looking and "it's great in the twisties" (which it is.)
These are like the same people here that think the Evo is a great looking car. They are looking at it through beer goggles, the same way they think the ugly girl at the bar at closing is some hot babe. They dress it up with $3000 wheels, carbon fiber, slam it, and think that it's a great looking car.
Is the Evo ugly?...not at all; Is the Rx-8 slow as a pig?..not at all. But if you put these two different cars side-by-side, better put on your beer googles to look at the Evo, and don't line up your Rx-8 against a Geo or you're likely to be embarrassed. Neither situation is remotely true.
Originally Posted by WICKed'N'EVO
You might want to consider getting the FD 93-95 RX7 instead.
Let me know I got one FS.
Let me know I got one FS.
