I support yoparts... i support everyone else as well that helps the community. You act as if you are the only one in a situation like yours. With all of these hard comings you talk about... wouldnt you rather buy the parts cheaper ? I buy 90% of my products from either vendors here or members selling parts they bought from vendors here. I am on my 2nd evo, i just bought a house a year ago, i just had a son less than 2 months ago. I am also in the military, so you can imagine how much money i dont make to afford the things on my car, much less the car itself. I am neither the same guy or related to the guy you described. Aside from the clutch, noone else has touched my car as far as installs go. As of this weekend i will be sitting at a nice and comfortable 550whp. The other 10% i may have purchased from yoparts. Did i save a ton of money by going thru them... not at all. You and everyone else acts as if their prices are 50% cheaper then everyone else. You said it yourself, the parts themselves arent cheap. If you compare their prices to suggested retail, then yes, they are cheap, and so is everyone elses. The difference with yoparts to someone like you is easy... if im in the market for an EBC (and ebay is all out)... i start shopping. Maybe contact 15 vendors, until i find the price i want. Or, i call yoparts... get the same price, and save me 45 minutes to an hour, or a few days, of searching and PMing. If you dont believe me, try it. I am doing and engine build for a buddy. I got prices from yoparts and several other vendors. Some prices the vendors beat yoparts by 20 or 30 bucks, other prices they maybe fall 5 ot 10 bucks short on. So what do i do, instead of fishing thru 50 vendors, i ordered the bulk from 1 guy and a few other things from other vendors who beat their prices without even knowing what i was already working with.

I think everyone has a terrible misconception about their pricing for one... and they do a lot of their business do to excellent customer service as well, which a lot of vendors could take a few lessons on that subject.

 

Tony Robbins

 

Tony Robbins makes a comfortable living off of 5% margins?

 

he makes money on the books telling people how

it wasnt meant to be literal... it was meant to lighten the tension in a thread that has way too much

 

isnt there usually a minimum a company is allowed to sell another companies parts for so this doesnt happen and the part keeps its value?




What Charles did was correct, with a company like yo parts around a monopoly will take place and put 200 others out of a job. I like cheap parts myself, but not to the extent where it threatens the larger companies, thats just wrong...


Yo parts can sit be found so thats a non-issue, as far as them being on here i think thats a good thing if it really was that much of an issue and created more unwanted issues


Cheers!

 

I guess EvoM should take a stand against IMPORTIMAGE for selling $77 fuel pumps.

 

I was trying to see how I could bring Shallow Hal into this so no worries

Yes, there is... the problem is that the policies are very relaxed and not usually enforced very well at all except for the efforts of a handful of manufacturers that do their best to protect the value and integrity of their products.

 

their pricing IS significantly cheaper on MOST parts, not ALL.

AND I dont care what anyone says, buy an EBC from them and have it be defective to the point where it doesnt work properly and Greddy (example) says they dont take it back and YOparts has to eat it. Because things like that DO happen and let me see them do that.










I honestly DO understand where your coming from though about getting things cheaper and so on, but that proves what Charles said earlier about not caring about the industry and only caring about cheaper prices. Its the SHORT TERM benefit your considering. I guess its not really your job to be concerned with the industry or the way things go long term. And I guess its just other vendors' jobs to do that. I just hope that most people at least see where people like me are coming from.

I can honestly say one thing though. I am very easy to pay full price for something if I'm treated perfectly. AND i'm the guy people call to go to car dealers with because I get the best deals. I almost always get cars for invoice or close to it unless theres a high demand/supply proportion on the vehicle. But I dont mind letting someone make a decent profit off of me if I feel they have earned it, and Not to be cocky but I usually earn whatever I make. I sit on the phone with people and help them out, talk them into different things, and even send people away if I think their best interests are to either buy from someone else or not buy something at all. I dont talk people into more expensive parts EVER unless I honestly believe its better for them. And even the people that have not bought from me when I told them their best interest ws to go elsewhere, always remember me in the future for their friends or if they want/need something I can offer them. Those people generally stay loyal.

The whole thing is just so controversial because I do see where the consumers are coming from but I hope the consumers can at least see that its not just 100% of other vendors crying because of lost business, we DO care about the industry as a whole to a real extent

-Steve

 

Steve, that was extremely well put and I can only give you a +2 on it

 

“The best way to get people to accept the need for change is to not give them a choice” -William Weiss

I think this quote more or less sums up everything I would have taken the time to type. Only in this instance the decision made for the people was to prevent change in order to protect the status quo. Right? Wrong? I'm not one to say because as a consumer I do more research on what I purchase than just one source. It's the consumers job to research, shop, and make a purchasing decesion. Not EvoM's. It will and has always started with the consumer in retail.

 

One last parting thought on this whole fiasco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act

 

Well then...I have a very good response to that. So should we bring back RNR, project gen, or any other company that screw people over since its not our job to get involved. I am not saying yoparts screws people over...just making a point on getting involved as it goes both ways. If we left on companies that screwed people over, I dont think people would take your position. Second part of my response is that we are in no way dictating were you can shop, we are simply making on a ruling on who we allow to advertise and by extension put our name behind.

And yet another side to the story. So you let the consumers determine what happens. Consumers that by the majority are concerned for themselves in the short term. Most of them are not educated enough (by no fault of their own) on the effects and behind the scenes of the industry. Then hypothetically, it creates all the problems mentioned and ends up damaging the community and industry, thereby indirectly and directly hurting the customer as well. Then what? Too late at that point to go back.

 

Thats a bit of a stretch

 

This did not happen because the vendors of EvoM are trying to form a monopoly in order to drive the cost of parts up. This happened in order to keep the smaller businesses alive, maintain the integrity and value of the current products on the market, and to allow this industry to continue to grow.

 

We all like cheep parts. Everyone in the world wants a deal. Yoparts was trying to make that happen. I know some people one here that get there **** for free or wholesale cause they kiss ***. And then they put sponsored by evom vendors in there screen name