Noob, 17 year old, want EVO BAD!
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Okay seriously, first and foremost, learn how to drive a manual. An Evo isn't really the car you want to learn how to drive a manual on. You'll especially be kicking yourself in the butt when you realize how quickly you burnt out your clutch from just learning how to drive on it and how much your about to be raped because Evo clutches and flywheels are by no means cheap.
Trust me I know, I just replaced my clutch and flywheel on my Evo.
Second of all, I think its cool you want an Evo as your first official car and what not, but get past the hype of an Evo and do some serious research about them. I can't stress that enough! The more knowledge you are armed with the better. Also keep in mind its an Evo, a performance car, and most used ones are usually abused in some sort of way. So there again do your research first.
Third I wouldn't be so cocky about not being worried about insurance. Insurance on an Evo is by no means cheap, and with your age thats definitely going to effect your rate. I'm 24 yrs old and my insurance on my 05 Evo VIII GSR is literally raping me. I hate how much I pay, I won't lie, but I did my research first and got an estimate from my insurance before I even bought my Evo. Crunched some numbers and made sure with payments, insurance, and maintenance and extra money for if something went wrong; I'd still be able to afford an Evo.
I'm not going to sit here and bash or flame you on this thread. I know what its like to want what you want and be so determined you won't stop at anything to get it. I'm also not saying your too young to have an Evo, but let me tell you first handle, if you've never been in a performance car of this sort.. your bond to get cocky and stupid. Do you really want to chance that with a 30 thousand dollar Evo?
Personally, I agree with some of the other response. Get a beater car for now thats a manual. Learn how to drive a manual and drive one well. Save money where you can so you can afford your Evo X a little while from now. There still very new and the price tag on the is by no means cheap. Don't give up on your dream to own an Evo X, just postpone it a little while longer... you won't regret it.
And if nothing else consider this.. with the way the economy is and how retarded some people drive, can you truly afford for Evo if say you got into an accident or got a ticket? Both will end up effecting your insurance rate. Or what if you lost your job, do you really want to see your Evo got repo if you can't find another job to start making payments again? I know a buddy on another forum, had a black Lancer, lost his job and his Lancer went to repo. Now he's broken hearted and seriously depressed.
Be smart, do your research and don't jump the gun on anything.
Trust me I know, I just replaced my clutch and flywheel on my Evo.
Second of all, I think its cool you want an Evo as your first official car and what not, but get past the hype of an Evo and do some serious research about them. I can't stress that enough! The more knowledge you are armed with the better. Also keep in mind its an Evo, a performance car, and most used ones are usually abused in some sort of way. So there again do your research first.
Third I wouldn't be so cocky about not being worried about insurance. Insurance on an Evo is by no means cheap, and with your age thats definitely going to effect your rate. I'm 24 yrs old and my insurance on my 05 Evo VIII GSR is literally raping me. I hate how much I pay, I won't lie, but I did my research first and got an estimate from my insurance before I even bought my Evo. Crunched some numbers and made sure with payments, insurance, and maintenance and extra money for if something went wrong; I'd still be able to afford an Evo.
I'm not going to sit here and bash or flame you on this thread. I know what its like to want what you want and be so determined you won't stop at anything to get it. I'm also not saying your too young to have an Evo, but let me tell you first handle, if you've never been in a performance car of this sort.. your bond to get cocky and stupid. Do you really want to chance that with a 30 thousand dollar Evo?
Personally, I agree with some of the other response. Get a beater car for now thats a manual. Learn how to drive a manual and drive one well. Save money where you can so you can afford your Evo X a little while from now. There still very new and the price tag on the is by no means cheap. Don't give up on your dream to own an Evo X, just postpone it a little while longer... you won't regret it.
And if nothing else consider this.. with the way the economy is and how retarded some people drive, can you truly afford for Evo if say you got into an accident or got a ticket? Both will end up effecting your insurance rate. Or what if you lost your job, do you really want to see your Evo got repo if you can't find another job to start making payments again? I know a buddy on another forum, had a black Lancer, lost his job and his Lancer went to repo. Now he's broken hearted and seriously depressed.
Be smart, do your research and don't jump the gun on anything.
It's not like I will have tons of time to save money and blah blah blah..
And it's not like I have never ever driven a high performance car before... I mean I have whipped, and I mean WHIPPED a G37x around (my uncles)...
That thing has some serious power too, alot more then a ralliart...
thanks for the input guys, and I will get back to thinking...
Not sure if this was covered since I skimmed over it. But you can lease an EVO or R/A. I was given the oppertunity to leave the new R/A for $239/month with 0 down. I declined beacuse #1, I really dislike the fact that it's a clutchless manual with paddle shifters, #2 the lancer/evo are no longer what they once were. It is possible to lease, but it depends on your dealer.
I would have to agree with people on here about getting a car to learn to drive standard. Get a used 02-06 Lancer for a few years until insurance is less then your car payment would be with the evo. AWD + not knowing how to drive standard = many destroyed clutches, and other possible bad stuff.
I would have to agree with people on here about getting a car to learn to drive standard. Get a used 02-06 Lancer for a few years until insurance is less then your car payment would be with the evo. AWD + not knowing how to drive standard = many destroyed clutches, and other possible bad stuff.
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Not sure if this was covered since I skimmed over it. But you can lease an EVO or R/A. I was given the oppertunity to leave the new R/A for $239/month with 0 down. I declined beacuse #1, I really dislike the fact that it's a clutchless manual with paddle shifters, #2 the lancer/evo are no longer what they once were. It is possible to lease, but it depends on your dealer.
I would have to agree with people on here about getting a car to learn to drive standard. Get a used 02-06 Lancer for a few years until insurance is less then your car payment would be with the evo. AWD + not knowing how to drive standard = many destroyed clutches, and other possible bad stuff.
I would have to agree with people on here about getting a car to learn to drive standard. Get a used 02-06 Lancer for a few years until insurance is less then your car payment would be with the evo. AWD + not knowing how to drive standard = many destroyed clutches, and other possible bad stuff.
Wt?
1863 That is the number of totaled Evolution viii, ix, and now xs. I have kept track since the first day I bought mine in Feb 2003. Of those 1863 78% where with drivers under the age of 25. So i wonder why that many would be under 25 could it be inexperience, or the lack of control, inability to understands the limits of a car that is faster than most production vehicles. Could it be the lack good drivers training (driving around the block is a joke). So i say to you before you buy a vehicle that is way above your ability get a good starter car and then get your dream car later after a few years experience. Car insurance on a car like that is not expensive because the insurance companies just hate kids. They are number counters they take the accidents and the drivers ages and calculate the average age of most people that have an accident. Ironically its 16 to 23!!!!!!!!!!
Lots to consider here.
Yes, I agree you are very young to be looking at buying an Evo X, or even a Ralliart for that matter. Temptation is strong whenever you get behind the wheel of any sports car. Having experience driving the way you do is a double edged sword. On the one hand you have a feel for driving. On the other hand you may become over confident in your own abilities. Also driving competatively means you have a natural tendency to race, or at the very least a competative nature, which will make it that much harder for you to ignore those idiots who pull up next to you on the street and want to race.
All of that aside, I will do my best to help here.
Evo X GSR = Manual transmission, lower price. I highly recommend you learn to drive stick, every driver should learn. The Evo is NOT a good car to learn on, IMO, as others have mentioned, your best bet is to buy a beater and LEARN. If you want a performance car you need to sharpen those skills and that takes time and patients.
Evo X MR = TC-SST (semi-automatic transmission), higher price.
In either case both cars are out of your budget, even used, for now.
Ralliart = TC-SST transmission, more in your price range. You may be able to find a used RA for good price, especially in a few months.
There are a number of advantages to going for the RA, lower price means more money for extras like maintenance, operating costs, etc.
My personal advice would be to buy a used Lancer ES for much less money. It really is your best bet, start out with something with less hp, you can buy a manual and learn as you go, most guys end up prefering manuals after they learn. Plus you save money on the initial cost of the car, which you can use for mods and maintenance and build into the power slowly. Also if you wreck it, your not out 22K.
Just my 2 cents.
I'll step offf my soap box now.
Yes, I agree you are very young to be looking at buying an Evo X, or even a Ralliart for that matter. Temptation is strong whenever you get behind the wheel of any sports car. Having experience driving the way you do is a double edged sword. On the one hand you have a feel for driving. On the other hand you may become over confident in your own abilities. Also driving competatively means you have a natural tendency to race, or at the very least a competative nature, which will make it that much harder for you to ignore those idiots who pull up next to you on the street and want to race.
All of that aside, I will do my best to help here.
Evo X GSR = Manual transmission, lower price. I highly recommend you learn to drive stick, every driver should learn. The Evo is NOT a good car to learn on, IMO, as others have mentioned, your best bet is to buy a beater and LEARN. If you want a performance car you need to sharpen those skills and that takes time and patients.
Evo X MR = TC-SST (semi-automatic transmission), higher price.
In either case both cars are out of your budget, even used, for now.
Ralliart = TC-SST transmission, more in your price range. You may be able to find a used RA for good price, especially in a few months.
There are a number of advantages to going for the RA, lower price means more money for extras like maintenance, operating costs, etc.
My personal advice would be to buy a used Lancer ES for much less money. It really is your best bet, start out with something with less hp, you can buy a manual and learn as you go, most guys end up prefering manuals after they learn. Plus you save money on the initial cost of the car, which you can use for mods and maintenance and build into the power slowly. Also if you wreck it, your not out 22K.
Just my 2 cents.
I'll step offf my soap box now.
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i might do that, i tihnk what I'll do is create a relationship with a local mitsu dealer and buy a beater car from them, then in a year I can get the RA or X....
makes sense right?
sith you make a lot of sense to
makes sense right?
sith you make a lot of sense to
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My Opinion
Hi Jack,
i was just like you when i was 18 (i didnt get my license till then) and drooled over evo's. I was also considered mature, extremely patient, and smart by both young and old alike. but trust me when i say this, youre going to destroy your car if you buy it now.
first - learn how to drive stick
second - learn about cars, how they work, why things go wrong, and how to fix those things because evos are VERY expensive to run and maintain. i wont talk about insurance since you stated that your dad is going to pay for it. but even with free insurance...it still costs A LOT. (learn about turbos and AWD too)
third - learn to drive. i dont mean just operating a car but gaining EXPERIENCE by being on the road for a few years in ALL conditions.
so in conclusion i will have to agree with everyone else... buy a beater, learn stick, learn to fix and maintain and wait a few years before you buy one. those things are beastly...you can't compare a g37 to it (especially if it wasn't stick).
also, i may have sounded older and experienced but im only 21 and just got my evo. but from my 5 years of experience(running into a curb trying to drift, illegal racing, tickets, accidents, driving extremely sleepy, etc) i have finally matured and realized the error of my ways. pretty much, i drive my evo as though i have a family of 6 kids ... unless im on the track.
i was just like you when i was 18 (i didnt get my license till then) and drooled over evo's. I was also considered mature, extremely patient, and smart by both young and old alike. but trust me when i say this, youre going to destroy your car if you buy it now.
first - learn how to drive stick
second - learn about cars, how they work, why things go wrong, and how to fix those things because evos are VERY expensive to run and maintain. i wont talk about insurance since you stated that your dad is going to pay for it. but even with free insurance...it still costs A LOT. (learn about turbos and AWD too)
third - learn to drive. i dont mean just operating a car but gaining EXPERIENCE by being on the road for a few years in ALL conditions.
so in conclusion i will have to agree with everyone else... buy a beater, learn stick, learn to fix and maintain and wait a few years before you buy one. those things are beastly...you can't compare a g37 to it (especially if it wasn't stick).
also, i may have sounded older and experienced but im only 21 and just got my evo. but from my 5 years of experience(running into a curb trying to drift, illegal racing, tickets, accidents, driving extremely sleepy, etc) i have finally matured and realized the error of my ways. pretty much, i drive my evo as though i have a family of 6 kids ... unless im on the track.
wow jacx, really impressed with your demeanor...hopefully you'll have the patience in the world to have - if i had that amount of money in my hands at your age, i would've definitely gotten an evo hands down...g/l with your decision, and can't really add to what the others have advised you to...
it was my first car....iv spent all my savings (not college money) on it and was on the forums reading and researching for at least a year before I signed up and took the plunge while still owning the car...everyone said I was gonna wreck it and I was gonna be the first to get a ticket I wasnt gonna take care of it etc. etc....no wrecks no tickets 18 now just graduated high school and going to college and never looking back
just to let you know I was considered a very smart driver by family and friends and before my father passed away he very well educated me in driving and alot of automotive stuff and I have a full year of automotive ASE training in all steering, suspension, brakes, engine performance, and electrical...don't know if that means anything but by all means good luck and be safe!
just to let you know I was considered a very smart driver by family and friends and before my father passed away he very well educated me in driving and alot of automotive stuff and I have a full year of automotive ASE training in all steering, suspension, brakes, engine performance, and electrical...don't know if that means anything but by all means good luck and be safe!
I can relate to you all i wanted was an evo when i got my car. My parents didnt let me and im glad they didnt. I got a base acura rsx 5 speed which was great to learn how to drive on. Then the day i turned 18 i said I would start looking for evos. I did my research and found a good 8. The first day I drove it was amazing and there is no better feeling in the world than driving your dream car. DEFINENTLY take the guys advice on this website not only for this but also when you are shopping for them. MOST of the people on here are here to help eachother out. I would definently say learn how to change oil, tranny fluid, brake pads, etc because evos are EXPENSIVE to maintain and all the money you can save is great. Good luck,
Andrew
Andrew