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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 4RETECH
I would imagine an OEM clutch would be the best if you didn't abuse it, launches etc. Mine lasted over 209k with mods. Only reason I changed it was the motor blew.

Anyway, now I have the ACT and DD, it's fine for me.

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while i dont doubt your engine lasted that long, I dont beleive your stock clutch lasted 209k miles, especially with power mods. maybe 209,000 kilometers.

Bone stock evos that are babied rarely keep stock clutches past 75,000 miles. ( ask a mitsu tech )

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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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stock clutch at 53k still had a lot of life left in it, the only reason i replaced it is because i had the transfer case out.
stock clutch drivebility is great for daily driving.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dvd_mi
I am thinking about ACT MB7-HDSS. But somebody told me that Competition Clutch kits are decent also (and they are even cheaper). What do you think???
I would not recommend Comp Clutch. I had a turbo civic 240whp and 236ft/tq and I went through three comp clutches. Stage 2,3, and another 3. The clutches burned out fast and I didnt even drive the car hard, and the car was only tracked once. I am in the high 300 awhp and tq range and I just replaced my clutch with the exedy stock replacement clutch a while back and it is holding up fine. That is what I recommend. And all i changed out was the disc. Resurfaced the flywheel. I paid 70 for the disc, and 240 for installation and flywheel resurfacing. Holds like a champ now. Hope this helps you out some if you really need to save money. It saved me alot of money going this route, and Im glad I made the choice I did.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cornercarver
If you're not drag racing, ACT will be fine. 2nd gear high RPM lockout is a common problem with the ACT setup.
I've used my ACT for a couple years now, and the lock out is what is killing my trap times.

Everytime I go, I loose atleast a second trying to shift because of lockout in some gear. My best time is a mid-high 13 in a 1/4, and that's a joke for how much is on this car.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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I've been running a competition clutch stage 3 kevlar for over a year now without issues. I only put about 6,000 miles on it. Petal feel is slightly stiffer than stock. Engagement is fairly smooth, a little rougher than stock but good enough.

I've launched it a few times, not that hard. It grabs ok. I did glaze it pretty good once when I over revved first gear before engaging. It was right back to normal again in a few miles and it didn't even smell like burnt clutch.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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i have a factory replacement from exedy and its pretty good havent had a problem
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by biggieevoIX
exedy stage 1 HD
Do not listen to this man. This is by far the worst clutch in history, yes, from personal experience. You can search under my user name to see my thread on it as I do not need to elaborate on that here.

Originally Posted by white8
EXEDY STAGE 2 4 PUCK CERAMIC METALLIC CLUTCH is what you guys need. affordable and will hold over 500 to the ground. it chatters and you have to rev before take off a little bit. also this clutch doesnt over heat or cost you an arm n a leg.

i have a disk and alignment tool for sale i had it for a spare but i still dont need it after 2 race seasons and i'm upgrading so dont need it. 200 bucks lmk

For a daily driven Evo with low-mid 300 whp range, you recommend a chattering 4-puck clutch?


My input:

The Exedy Twin is easy on the gears/synchros, its rebuildable, and it works. Period. If you plan on keeping the Evo a while, it is by long and far the best investment.

Stock is also easy on the synchros, gears, etc., and the wallet. Also a smart choice.

ACT is not easy on the transmission, nor is any other ridiculous single disk stage 9000 clutch. Will it work? Sure, for a while, until it wears your synchros to nothing, falls apart in the bell housing (also search under my name for this thread), or you can have lockout issues, which admittedly, I didn't have with my ACT. You can call Shepard Transmission and ask him what clutches like ACT do to Evo transmissions. His response will be exactly the same mine: Stay away.

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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dgrumpys
while i dont doubt your engine lasted that long, I dont beleive your stock clutch lasted 209k miles, especially with power mods. maybe 209,000 kilometers.

Bone stock evos that are babied rarely keep stock clutches past 75,000 miles. ( ask a mitsu tech )

callin b/s
You think all my mods were on since day one??

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...000-miles.html

Anyway, I have discussed this on the fourm already. Most people just abuse the clutch, that is why they don't last. Most of my stick cars, the clutch will last for 150k- 200K no prob, esp with highway miles.

Sorry to the OP for this added, due to the BS call out
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Solo II Evo
Do not listen to this man. This is by far the worst clutch in history, yes, from personal experience. You can search under my user name to see my thread on it as I do not need to elaborate on that here.




For a daily driven Evo with low-mid 300 whp range, you recommend a chattering 4-puck clutch?


My input:

The Exedy Twin is easy on the gears/synchros, its rebuildable, and it works. Period. If you plan on keeping the Evo a while, it is by long and far the best investment.

Stock is also easy on the synchros, gears, etc., and the wallet. Also a smart choice.

ACT is not easy on the transmission, nor is any other ridiculous single disk stage 9000 clutch. Will it work? Sure, for a while, until it wears your synchros to nothing, falls apart in the bell housing (also search under my name for this thread), or you can have lockout issues, which admittedly, I didn't have with my ACT. You can call Shepard Transmission and ask him what clutches like ACT do to Evo transmissions. His response will be exactly the same mine: Stay away.

twin is expensive. only reason i recommended 4 puck because its affordable and it ups your skill level and makes the driver understand the transmission better. and yea ACT is for dsm's not evo's!!!
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 4RETECH
You think all my mods were on since day one??

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...000-miles.html

Anyway, I have discussed this on the fourm already. Most people just abuse the clutch, that is why they don't last. Most of my stick cars, the clutch will last for 150k- 200K no prob, esp with highway miles.

Sorry to the OP for this added, due to the BS call out

Its definately believable. Its all about how you drive it. when i break my car i know exactly what i'm doing. If i want or need something to last i drive it according to my budget. If i had the patience i'd start all over with a completely stock evo8 and see how long i could make everything last on the car. kinda start like a 1,000,000 mile evo club haha. maybe in 30 years when i dont have adrenal problems anymore haha.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by white8
twin is expensive. only reason i recommended 4 puck because its affordable and it ups your skill level and makes the driver understand the transmission better. and yea ACT is for dsm's not evo's!!!
Using a chattering 4-puck clutch in no way 'ups your skill level.' All it does is teach you how to deal with an annoying clutch that should never be in an Evo to begin with.

The twin is unfortunately expensive up front, but rebuilds in the future are cheap. It also won't wear your synchros out like an ACT or a 4-puck clutch (both will destroy your synchros. You don't have to listen to me on this, just call ShepTrans). The engagement is too rough on a 4-puck or any aggressive single disc clutch - there is a reason why nobody in the motorsports section will recommend one. They suck.

A Twin will make the car drive like Sech. That will make you a better driver because you can rev mach like a dream and launch the car while letting the clutch take the shock, while not annihilating the transmission. If you want to drive your car daily and nicely, stock is fine. If you want to be serious with your Evo, track it, autox, drag, go right to a twin. Expensive up front, cheap in the long run.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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this thread has more misleading information in it than the NY Times. First, It doesn't matter what your HP level is going to be. A clutch is decided based off of TQ. With THAT said, YOU can't gauge how many launches you can have on a stock clutch. I think in the 1st 12,000 miles of my car I launched the car atleast 5,000 times. I say that giving a low and generous number. I changed the clutch out before we shipped our cars to the track. For the simple fact I didn't want to run into any issues while I was there. When I pulled the tranny apart, there was PLENTY of life left on it. There are a lot of people telling the OP to go WAY OVERKILL. The OP said he isn't planning on modding the car anymore. Why go with a 4 puck clutch? Who said you are going to learn more by installing one? WTH?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by white8
WOW major props to you that takes some skill. I dont know how to be gentle to an evo i'm on my 2nd engine 3rd tranny 4th tcase and rear end is going and im at 75,000 miles. The evo is a tank though i give it that because i've beaten it to death doing 75,000 launches on jet glue and even after a tcase starts whining it takes 50,000 more launches and a few crazy atocross events to completely destroy it haha.
75,000 launches!!!??? If you bought your Evo in 2003, 75,000 launches equates to 29 launches per day. The Evo is a tank indeed!
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Act hdss. No lock out for me.
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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[quote=Solo II Evo;8661533]Do not listen to this man. This is by far the worst clutch in history, yes, from personal experience. You can search under my user name to see my thread on it as I do not need to elaborate on that here.




I was thinking of going HD Stage 1 but after you said from personal experince that they are **** im learning heavily towards a stock replament clutch which I will be buying from the States as they are 4 times the amount here in Australia :S
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