OHHHHHHHHH REALLY ????

IT SAID ON THE SITE INC. So I thought that it meant it came with it . I don't know why Mitsubishi would have it listed like that .

MR Package:
Aluminum Sport Pedals, Carbon-Fiber/Aluminum Brake Grip, 6 M/T Aluminum
Shift Knob, Vortex Generator, Boost Gauge Kit, Wheel Locks, Gauge
Trim 800.00 - - INC

I thought INC meant it came with it there was no OPT next to it.

Derek

 

I think the confusion with the INC on the sheet is this.
Its stating its INC on every MR, the equipment that is.
Not necc. that the price is INC in the msrp.

 

Well,

I guess it depends on whether the 38,000+ out the door you would spend for the Evo is the absolute max you can afford. I know that for me, in the 38,000-48,000 price range I would start considering some used cars as well, such as the Z06, many of which you can find for mid 30's, lightly used, and never tracked. Iwould also consider the Elise, which although there will price gouging going on with it as well, will always be worth a ton more than any type of evo. But, if it were me, it's a no brainer. I would simply buy the "base" Evo, or GSR, which I have, at invoice, or very little over, be out the door for under 30,000, and spend 4-5000 on engine and suspension, and have a superior car to the MR. The MR just does not have enough additional performance justify a price hike for me. I love the Evo, and will probably always have it, unless I am forced to sell it in order to get a skyline, which I will definitely be buying. I hope to keep both, but we'll see what life dictates. Just my 2 cents.


Percy

 

When you can buy an 04 GSR for 27K plus tax/title, that sure as hell is 8K less than a MR. I can think of a lot of stuff for 8,000 that will blow the doors off the MR. Including a suspension that is actually tuned for performance, not some Factory B.S. for comfort and handling to try and please EVERY buyer. And a re-geared 6 speed? Damn, then I suppose Subaru should make a 7 speed for the STi and tack on another 5K to thier sticker price. Since it still out performs the Evo (even if by some small amount). Take the extra 5 grand there and spend it on your Scooby to make the handling equal to the MR and a few go fast parts to make it even more faster.

And the roof and door beams? Wow, there is the justification for a couple grand. It's quite amazing how many people tought the MR as such a godsend. If you have a rally license or autocross the car for a living, then it will be worth the cost. But I highly doubt that even 10% of those who will buy this car actually do those types of racing for a living.

A lot of you are buying into Mitsu's propoganda just like they hoped. The same thing happened in the mid 90's when they kept jacking up the prices on the 300ZX and RX-7. Let's see how many idiots will spend more money than the car is worth.

But it's all good. I'm sure you'll just lable me again as another "MR hater".

 

Man alot of money to throw down when u know the EVO 9 is right around the corner

 

actually when I started reading your tirade that is what I thought (inflamitory comments like calling people idiots will do that); however, on further thought, this is what I came up with. I think you are misunderstaning why some people are buying this car, so I'll try and clarify from my point of view.
I chose to buy the MR for numerous reasons, here are a couple:

1) I have a "toy" car (my rally car) and I want something I can drive every day that will give me similar performance and make me smile but has a stereo, comfortable seats, and A/C.

2) I've been looking for a new street car for some time (3 or 4 years) as I tend to be very picky. I've considered almost everything from an SVT Lightining Pickup, to the new GTO, to a Corvette Z06, to the new C6, and briefly thought about a new M3.

3) I've put some miles in a GSR, and I personally think 5th gear is too short. I don't like to turn that kind of RPM on my daily driver. I almost bought a VIII when they first came over, but I just couldn't get past the gearing.

4) Never really considered a WRX or an STi, they're like belly buttons, everyone has them out here, and I can't personally stand the sound of the flat 4. I also was very unimpressed with the comfort of the STi. When I first sat in the Evo everything just fell where it should, hand to shifter, feet to pedals it just "fit".

5) I had even thought of buying a GSR and having a custom gear kit put in it...

6) I wanted something a little different, and I've always had a thing for Grey cars.

7) I have a rally car, and a rally licence. I don't have to pretend...

Not trying to be a snob; however, I hope this provides a little insight to why someone would pay "almost 40k" for a mitsubishi. Basically becasue I can afford it, and for the first time in my 4 years of looking, I found a car that fit all my buying criteria. I pick up my MR on Monday, and the fun begins shortly after that. If you are constantly thinking "well the new (insert car here) will be out in 3 years, and it will be better than what's available now" you'll be driving the same beater forever. There will always be the "next best thing" coming...

As always, YMMV,
Greg

 

Curiously Evolved,

too bad your 04' evo's awd drivetrain shares little w/ the evo's in japan... and you gotta spend unknown amounts of money with questionable reliability for something simple as a front lsd or uprgraded center diff.

this all too much reminds me of the honda world when people thought they could build a better type r out of their gsr integras, only to deny the fact that they've made compromises in comfort, reliability, and over all streetability to beat factory engineered performance that makes no such compromises to come out on top. only now the cars (EVO's) are much more complicated, the parts are much more difficult and expensive to replace, and the general owners are older and lack the DIY mentality, which is ultimately the only saving grace when modifying automobiles. So, continue doing only god knows what to your cars, and complain about how mitsubishi's warranty sucks when you yourself know what abuse you put the car thru. So, I'll just wach history repeat itself and enjoy my MR knowing that modding it isn't absolutely necessary. When it comes down to it, it is all driver skill and experience anyways, at buttonwillow a stock dx civic can easily pass type R's, Evo's, or whatever driven by noobs.

 

hmmm sounds like someone is mad. So when people sell their 03s and 04s. for the EVO09 with the new engine setup and over 300whp If you were concerned about the track wouldnt go u go 05 RS ??? WHy MR then? Imean there is always going to be bigger and better so who cares what the next guy has.I dont go to track events or autox for rankings etc.. i Go for the enjoyment of going..

 

yeah... you're right. a lotta the confusion is coming from the INC that is already on the MR/RS. the only purpose for this is so that Mitsubishi can maximize on profits from the products listed in each INC package (RS and MR only).

BHENKEL has the correct pricing. $35,594 after destination i believe.

-Robert

 

Batty,

funny that you think I'm mad, when all I'm trying to do is provide some insight based upon experience. So, go ahead and trade the 03' and 04' for EVO 9's. I'll guarantee I won't cry about my MR, unlike what I've been reading concerning the introduction of the MR and 05's (owners of previous years complaining about how they got screwed by mitsubishi selling them a 'partial EVO'). "There's always bigger and better" is hardly a profound statement, more cliche than anything.

Also since you haven't been paying attention, I already own a full racecar. I don't need another toy. I think the RS is a sick ride, but it doesn't fit what I need. I don't think owning a MR makes me elite, I just like the MR and I can afford it. Is that so hard to understand?

 

Strange i dont feel cheated with my 03? And i wont cry about my 03 while others have what ever they have. If you dont need a toy why would u buy a MR then? Think your feeling insecure about ur purchase .

 

I'm waiting for the MR number 2 type R spec C.
Based on the pattern of new evo's coming out, I believe I it has AYC and it'll screw over all the current MR owners.
I talk on the internet so that means i'm a reliable source.

just kidding, just buy what you like... i'm suprised this debate is going on with such off topic. I dont think the previous pages even discussed the MR's price, rather if it's worth it to buy or not. Mods should lock this thread, or throw it into a million page merge so nobody would read this worthless crap again.

 

haha, you're the one bringing up the idea of selling a car not even 3 years old for an EVO 9. funny that you're trying to play psychologist when you seem to be the one with the subconscious wanting something "bigger and better".
frankly, i don't even know why i waste my time with you when you apparently lack reading comprehension, and i need to spell out the obvious like you're a 3 year old. i'm buying the MR because i don't intend to treat it like a toy. it has all the modern everyday features a daily driver has minus cruise control. It has features the RS lacks. i don't want to disassemble it and change all sorts of parts. i want to drive it from point a to b, not fix it up and leave it in the garage.

 

OMG ur thought of driving this car to A to B wow what a waste of the cars true purpose. Mordern day features didnt know it had dual climate control, heated seats etc... OMG. And i think that everyone who owns will admit this is not a great daily driver. Never said i was getting rid of my 03. Maybe you need better reading comprehension

 

EXACTLY! Practice what you preach.
Your goal in life is not to convince people to be unhappy with the car they are purchasing, so please find something else to do.

Now that the 05s are here, people who haven't purchased an Evo are going to purchase an 05. Unfortunately the 9 isn't here yet and well, not everyone wants to wait for a 9.

People need stop comparing the MR to the GSR and RS unless you'll put tax/tag cost into their' prices too. Trust me, it will probably be a while before you get any 05 for MSRP or less OTD. The bottom line is that the MR is worth it to you or it isn't. You don't need to try and convince anyone else that they shouldn't have this car for whatever reason.

The price difference between the MR and 05 GSR really isn't that massive for what you're getting , this is the truth, and the 9 is not available to us right now nor is any JDM or UK model. The only question here is whether it is worth it to you or not, we don't have to make that decision for others. Grow up man, you've been on here doing this for a long time reguardless of what the MSRP was.

If it makes you feel like you've proved some point I'll tell you that I plan on getting dubs, slamming my Evo to the ground and chroming out everything in the engine bay and anywhere else I can. I'll never drive it, you'll see me with the fly honeys at NOPI Nats and HIN. Maybe I'll drive it once or twice and wreck it too. Guess what, even if this was true, it still is none or your concern. So get the hell over it.