all of the MR evos have been built or are almost completed but there aren't any options so ordering is kind of a moot point. Pick a color and see if you can find one thats about the only decision. The last time i checked their inventory Stohlman mitsubishi had 5 mr's and 15 total evo's in their floor plan. They have one in all the colors

 

if you want a vehicle backed w/ a warranty, get the STI, if ya want a fun as hell car w/ no warranty, get the EVO!

 

First let me tell you that I drive an 05 STi (Vishnu stage II plus equivalent tuned by Shiv).

If the difference pf 5k is where the sticky is then I would drive a regular 05 EVO and the STi.
the magazine did not test a regular 05 EVO vs the STi just the MR. One second in the track is an eternity. The linear power of the STi can be a plus or a minus. Do you want your car to have power below 4k or you want to drive the car at 6k to get the bost. I personaly drive between 1000 and 5k rpms. But hey people love the S2k that the VTEC does not come into play until 6k rpm and it goes till 9k. I like it too but driving it every day all the time it can get tiring. The seats of the EVO are superior to the STi seats. But on the other hand I would not call them Grand Marquis seats either. The short shifter is not $600 it is like 300 something and there are mush cheaper alternatives. I personally like the looks ot the MR better that the STi. If the regular EVO had the 6 sp it would be more even with the STi. Pricewise it should have been pretty much the same.

Engine management there are like 2-3 solutions and the a stand alone getting released next week. I think it is fine. In mod land the EVO is much more easy to mod. The STi needs turbo, injectors right away for any significant imrovement.

By the way where is a dyno sheet that the MR stock makes more than a stock STi?
I saw this on Mike's Mustang dyno which less than an STi makes.

Cheers

Nick

 

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...rx/index7.html

Bottom of the page, on the right. From the Motor trend comparison test.

 

There it is right there, 37K. I am sorry but there is no Mitusibishi made car that is worth 37K. Please, before flaming begins, I love both cars and have driven evo's (stock and modified) extensively. There are things that are better about the evo and there are things better about the sti. It's a tough decision when you just look at the raw car stuff. But here is some food for thought...

When I bring my Stage 2+ Sti (Green, FMIC, etc.) into the dealer for little stuff, they love it. And they have no intentions of voiding my warranty. They do tell me that if I break something, depending on what it is, I may have to return it to stock if the district manager has to approve the warranty. They say this is usually only for big stuff like blown motors and trannys. They also told me that if my stock clutch held up they would only replace it once because of the mods. Now try something like that at a mitsu dealer. They are going out of their way to void warranties.

When I was in the market for another cool car, I didnt park a Red Evo in my garage next to my STi simply because of the fact that the two cars are so similar. I would love to have an Evo but since I already owned an STi I bought an S2000. I think that the best advice for someone deciding between the two is to 1st figure out how much you care about warranty service (because it is nonexistant for the evo) and if that doesnt come into play just flip a coin. They are both amazing cars and you will be so happy either way.

Good luck and enjoy!

 

I would disagree with that. Turbo and injectors are definately the best upgrade path to take with the STi but alot of gains are made with porting the stock turbo, EM, c16 and other bolt ons.

And in terms of ease of mods, the Turbo and injectors on an STi is about the same or less amount of work then Cams and Cam gears in an evo. And I have done both in my garage so please save the "he doesnt know wtf he's talking about".

Thanks. Add to cart. Buy it now. Proceed to checkout.

 

that guy doesnt know what he's talking about j/k ... anyways - i have driven in an STi with just a turboback exhaust and XEDE piggyback, tuned for C16, and there was a scary amount of torque that i got to wrestle with!

 

Sorry guys but I will not drive my car with C16 or 100 octane fuel. I drive it with regular pi$$ water CA gasoline. This is why I did an ECUTEC vs a XEDE. This is my daily driver. I know that I can get 50 whp with race gas maps but I would rather not.

By the way Shiv had 2 MR's this afternoon. The red and the gray one. The gray one was gorgeous the red one was also very nice

Sorry for the semi hi-jacking.

Cheers

Nick

PS: why are you going UTEC vs XEDE?

 

for a track car evo will own the STi

for a comfortable daily driver get the STi

there are also about a million threads on this do a search for more info

 

Launch control, better control, and much better support. Try calling 925-924-9800 (vishnu's phone number) and good luck getting a timely response or for that matter a response period.

I don't like to make it a habit to flame anyone but Vishnu is not at the top of my list.

 

When I gave my deposit, I was the only one who had done so for an MR, which is why I was #1. My only guess is you gave a deposit before me, but the person taking it didn't specify "MR" when writing down your information. Either way, it didn't matter, because 4 MRs showed up with the first shipment, and 2 of them were graphite grey, so it didn't matter who was #1 or #2. Also, I bought mine immediately, and it sounds like you weren't really planning on buying at all. I knew all along I wanted the MR and was willing to pay for it the moment arrived, because the STi is butt ugly and is basically unmoddable (if that's a word). I have had three 12-second DSMs, so I figured I could do a thing or two with an EVO at some point in the future.

I have only driven an STi (04) once, but that was before I got my MR, so I really can't speak to the differences. I am quite surprised that you can get an 05 STi for <32k out the door, but if you can, then that might be a great deal. I am not sure I could justify the MR being worth 5k more, but I can verify that it is one extremely bad machine. The handling is crisp and effortless, and the acceleration is pretty good. It feels a little slow compared to my low 12s Talon, but that's to be expected. The power REALLY shows when you make full use of the 6 speed, since the shift points keep you at full boost in every gear.

 

Weird, I have whole engine bay in my sti that contradicts that first statement.

And my "unmoddable" STi was purchased for 30K before tax and license.

 

If your going to mod it I'd definately get the evo (any of them). The STi uses a slightly modified and turboed application of an engine used across the Subie lineup which is a fairly new design, and was not developed for high-performance use from the begining. The engine in the Evo is an evolution itself, it has been going through fine tuning since the late seventies and is a great platform to work from. But if you don't care about any of that get which ever one you want. They are both great stock.

 

if u want a warranty, bullet proof tranny, and a resale value get teh sti

if you plan on modding the car more then just an exhaust get a GSR

If I was in your shoes I would get the sti....but I love my evo

 

If you are concerned with price and attention from the law then look at an RS. Or better yet go drive one.