What should I buy an EVO MR or an STI?
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Originally Posted by 4G6316G6
Evo were made to be brutallized by the driver were as sti's and things like lambo's aren't. Go for the evo
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
The GSR wasn't mentioned because it wasn't in that test, just the MR and STi as well as the older versions, '04 STi and '03 Evo along for reference. We didn't test the '05 GSR, but may in the future. I'll keep you posted. 
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Hondan,
Sorry to bother you again but I was thinking about your situation again this afternoon and I reiterate that there is going to be almost NO chance to get a MR if you keep waiting.
I can clearly see your strategy to see what dealer will give you the best deal on the price but please put yourself on their shoes(a salesman) . There is going to be a lot of people that unlike you are willing to pay either cash or finance the car so they can drive the car.
Do you really think that a Mitsubishi dealer will hold your offer?, 100% they will NOT for the simple fact that you are just another customer and whomever bring them the money first the sooner that they will sell the car(MR).
Something different will be if you already gave them a deposit, on that I can understand their obligation but other than that I think that you will loose the oportunity to buy the car because like I said there is 20 more people like you that want to buy the car and the dealer does not discriminate when it comes to money, the first one to show the green takes it.
Remember 2 years ago specifically the first week of October 2002 when the Nissan 350Z was launched, I was going to get one and I was going to be one of the 4 new owner in Tucson to own one but at the same time there was people posting the 350Z on ebay a couple of months before being release and they were advertizing a $5000 bit to be in the waiting list for that car, further more there were some 350Z for over $40000 on ebay.
I am not saying that this is going to happen to you but I am saying that people are oportunist, the Nissan 350Z wasn't that sporty or fast after all the demand was very high before the official launch of the car. On the MR situation, If l were you, I would secure the MR before is gone.
I really wish you luck and I wish you purchase the car since I think that you will like it a lot but take my advise, don't wait too long or someone elses will buy it before you and you will not have a chance.
Take care!!
Sorry to bother you again but I was thinking about your situation again this afternoon and I reiterate that there is going to be almost NO chance to get a MR if you keep waiting.
I can clearly see your strategy to see what dealer will give you the best deal on the price but please put yourself on their shoes(a salesman) . There is going to be a lot of people that unlike you are willing to pay either cash or finance the car so they can drive the car.
Do you really think that a Mitsubishi dealer will hold your offer?, 100% they will NOT for the simple fact that you are just another customer and whomever bring them the money first the sooner that they will sell the car(MR).
Something different will be if you already gave them a deposit, on that I can understand their obligation but other than that I think that you will loose the oportunity to buy the car because like I said there is 20 more people like you that want to buy the car and the dealer does not discriminate when it comes to money, the first one to show the green takes it.
Remember 2 years ago specifically the first week of October 2002 when the Nissan 350Z was launched, I was going to get one and I was going to be one of the 4 new owner in Tucson to own one but at the same time there was people posting the 350Z on ebay a couple of months before being release and they were advertizing a $5000 bit to be in the waiting list for that car, further more there were some 350Z for over $40000 on ebay.
I am not saying that this is going to happen to you but I am saying that people are oportunist, the Nissan 350Z wasn't that sporty or fast after all the demand was very high before the official launch of the car. On the MR situation, If l were you, I would secure the MR before is gone.
I really wish you luck and I wish you purchase the car since I think that you will like it a lot but take my advise, don't wait too long or someone elses will buy it before you and you will not have a chance.
Take care!!
As far as the 350Z the first week for that car was crazy. I think it was just as crazy as the MR. I did however help in the aquisition of a black 350 for my brother in the first week. I did get it for MSRP which in itself was a battle. I told him to wait a couple monthes but he couldn't.
I think I am going to make an offer on a grey MR this weekend. We will see how low they will go. So far only 500 off the sticker. But it has been sitting for almost 3 weeks.
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Was offered 5% below sticker on a brand new 05 white RS. Not a bad deal but not good enough its only mid month lets see how low they will go.
Though not sure if I can roll with white. Maybe with some graphite rimes. HMMMM
Though not sure if I can roll with white. Maybe with some graphite rimes. HMMMM
Originally Posted by Hondan
I am not looking to get any options on the STI.
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Originally Posted by blinguskahn
Good luck. I have yet to see one that came to dealers option-less. There are usually "popular equipment packages" that are included in every STi.
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Originally Posted by blinguskahn
I have to 100% disagree with your statement here. I have numerous friends with Evo's and STi's and I have owned an 04 and now own an 05 STi. Let's break it down:
White Evo-9000 miles needs new clutch (Dynoflashed)
Black Evo-15000 miles 4 transfer cases, new clutch (Vishnu Stage 1)
Silver Evo-9000 Miles replaced Clutch (Dynoflash, Intake, Fuel Pump)
White Evo Different than above-3000 miles, no problems yet, too early to tell
All the STi's that are around town (about 5 of them) have had no problems that I am aware of.
All the cars that I mentioned have been "brutalized" meaning track days, hard driving on the street, launches and drag racing.
Sorry 4G6316G6, but I just don't buy it.
White Evo-9000 miles needs new clutch (Dynoflashed)
Black Evo-15000 miles 4 transfer cases, new clutch (Vishnu Stage 1)
Silver Evo-9000 Miles replaced Clutch (Dynoflash, Intake, Fuel Pump)
White Evo Different than above-3000 miles, no problems yet, too early to tell
All the STi's that are around town (about 5 of them) have had no problems that I am aware of.
All the cars that I mentioned have been "brutalized" meaning track days, hard driving on the street, launches and drag racing.
Sorry 4G6316G6, but I just don't buy it.
Track days, hard driving on the street I can understand. But "drag racing???", perhaps you haven't thought about the causes for these above-mentioned problematic Evos right??
The problem here, in my opinion, is not with the car (Evo) itself. It is a common sense, or the lack thereof, here with these friends of yours on launching a AWD car in drag races. I am sorry I don't mean to offend. But drag racing a AWD just bedazzles me. It's almost like rallying a top fuel funny car up the Pike's Peak.
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I got my 05sti with short shifter package, sti floormats, upgraded security, wheel locks for 33200 out the door...My brother got his evo 8 Mr edition with grounding cables, cargo net for 38500 out the door. I was able to bargain with my car and got 2200 off sticker price while because the mr is limited production no wiggle room, infact they want 5g's over invoice over the MR's they have. My bro had an 03, thats why he got his for his price. After driving the evo mr and my sti, i have no regrets getting my car. I feel like with my car its a bit classier while the evo is more young and wild. My brother got the graphite grey and i got aspen white with gold bbs wheels so my car tends to stand out like crazy compared to his. When i drive his car i feel like damn this thing is limited production and almost one of a kind. Im very happy how the MR turned out compared to the previous evo's it just bugged me that the sti had 6speed and bbs wheels while the evo gsr had five speed and enkies. My recommendation is if you into a drivers car, with great potential upgrade and amazing steering response and handling then the evo mr is your car, however if you into something bit more classier, better interior and radio unit, and reliable then i would say the subie. Often over looked is the manufacturer, this is my first subaru and i am pleased with every aspect of the dealership, on the other hand i lossed my faith in the mitsu program especially if i was an evo owner. I actually got a one year free membership to SCCA and CCMC for just getting an sti and they will invite me to all the sti SCCA meets and will not effect my warranty whats so ever. Little things like that got me to move over to the subie. Win win situation either way
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Hondan,
I am here just to give you another updated. Please look at the Mitsubishi website, they just raised the MSRP from $34999 to $35499.
Uhmmm, have you been following all my replies since you started your post? Why would they raise the price? To me is an indication that the MR will be soon gone for good.
Again, take my advise and get it as soon as you can as I suggested you, now you MUST talk down the price again to $500 less. 2 Days ago the MSRP was $34999 now is $35499.
I am glad that I got one of the first units ready to drive on the road, I purchased the showroom car that they had in the dealer showroom. I knew that if I did not get mine quickly someone would and is the manner of fact that when I was signing the papers to buy the car one hour after I test drove someone showed up with intentions to buy it but haha, too late.
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I am here just to give you another updated. Please look at the Mitsubishi website, they just raised the MSRP from $34999 to $35499.
Uhmmm, have you been following all my replies since you started your post? Why would they raise the price? To me is an indication that the MR will be soon gone for good.
Again, take my advise and get it as soon as you can as I suggested you, now you MUST talk down the price again to $500 less. 2 Days ago the MSRP was $34999 now is $35499.
I am glad that I got one of the first units ready to drive on the road, I purchased the showroom car that they had in the dealer showroom. I knew that if I did not get mine quickly someone would and is the manner of fact that when I was signing the papers to buy the car one hour after I test drove someone showed up with intentions to buy it but haha, too late.
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Hondan,
I am here just to give you another updated. Please look at the Mitsubishi website, they just raised the MSRP from $34999 to $35499.
Uhmmm, have you been following all my replies since you started your post? Why would they raise the price? To me is an indication that the MR will be soon gone for good.
Again, take my advise and get it as soon as you can as I suggested you, now you MUST talk down the price again to $500 less. 2 Days ago the MSRP was $34999 now is $35499.
I am glad that I got one of the first units ready to drive on the road, I purchased the showroom car that they had in the dealer showroom. I knew that if I did not get mine quickly someone would and is the manner of fact that when I was signing the papers to buy the car one hour after I test drove someone showed up with intentions to buy it but haha, too late.
my .50c
I am here just to give you another updated. Please look at the Mitsubishi website, they just raised the MSRP from $34999 to $35499.
Uhmmm, have you been following all my replies since you started your post? Why would they raise the price? To me is an indication that the MR will be soon gone for good.
Again, take my advise and get it as soon as you can as I suggested you, now you MUST talk down the price again to $500 less. 2 Days ago the MSRP was $34999 now is $35499.
I am glad that I got one of the first units ready to drive on the road, I purchased the showroom car that they had in the dealer showroom. I knew that if I did not get mine quickly someone would and is the manner of fact that when I was signing the papers to buy the car one hour after I test drove someone showed up with intentions to buy it but haha, too late.
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However the $35499 was the MSRP I was offered at my local dealership the day the car came in. The $34999 was without all the port installed parts from what I remember.
I am still not sure what I want to get and the decision only seems to be getting harder. We will see if I man up and buy on the 30th.
Thanks!
Daniel
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
I got my 05sti with short shifter package, sti floormats, upgraded security, wheel locks for 33200 out the door...My brother got his evo 8 Mr edition with grounding cables, cargo net for 38500 out the door. I was able to bargain with my car and got 2200 off sticker price while because the mr is limited production no wiggle room, infact they want 5g's over invoice over the MR's they have. My bro had an 03, thats why he got his for his price. After driving the evo mr and my sti, i have no regrets getting my car. I feel like with my car its a bit classier while the evo is more young and wild. My brother got the graphite grey and i got aspen white with gold bbs wheels so my car tends to stand out like crazy compared to his. When i drive his car i feel like damn this thing is limited production and almost one of a kind. Im very happy how the MR turned out compared to the previous evo's it just bugged me that the sti had 6speed and bbs wheels while the evo gsr had five speed and enkies. My recommendation is if you into a drivers car, with great potential upgrade and amazing steering response and handling then the evo mr is your car, however if you into something bit more classier, better interior and radio unit, and reliable then i would say the subie. Often over looked is the manufacturer, this is my first subaru and i am pleased with every aspect of the dealership, on the other hand i lossed my faith in the mitsu program especially if i was an evo owner. I actually got a one year free membership to SCCA and CCMC for just getting an sti and they will invite me to all the sti SCCA meets and will not effect my warranty whats so ever. Little things like that got me to move over to the subie. Win win situation either way
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Eventhough the 05sti improved the overall steering over the previous sti's, the evo is more responsive and the steering is real quick, seats hug the driver well, both handle extremely well, but evo is a bit better if you can handle the quick response.
Originally Posted by Hondan
I have been following your posts very closely. Your the voice in my head everytime I look at a picture of an MR. BUY ME BUY ME HAHAHA
However the $35499 was the MSRP I was offered at my local dealership the day the car came in. The $34999 was without all the port installed parts from what I remember.
I am still not sure what I want to get and the decision only seems to be getting harder. We will see if I man up and buy on the 30th.
Thanks!
Daniel
However the $35499 was the MSRP I was offered at my local dealership the day the car came in. The $34999 was without all the port installed parts from what I remember.
I am still not sure what I want to get and the decision only seems to be getting harder. We will see if I man up and buy on the 30th.
Thanks!
Daniel