Good for you bro. I like to have fun plain and simple.

 

Hondan,

What Motor Trend didn't mention is how close the MR and regular GSR are in terms of performance. I speculate the reason MT didn't mention that is because the hype is all about the new MR not the regular GSR, even they have almost identical powertrain with MR being heavier with a 6-spd and the MR handles a thin hair better with the Bilsteins. We have a similar dicussion about the MR vs GSR on another super mega long thread. But the conclusion is that if money is not a problem, get the MR. If it is, get the GSR.

If you really think this through with a sober mind, you will realize what kind of a bargain the regular 05 GSR is compared to both the MR and 05 STI. And since you mentioned that money is a realistic concern for you, as also to many of us here including myself, the GSR would be my recommendation for you.

 

The GSR wasn't mentioned because it wasn't in that test, just the MR and STi as well as the older versions, '04 STi and '03 Evo along for reference. We didn't test the '05 GSR, but may in the future. I'll keep you posted.

 

don't buy one. Go buy a STI. It's not that MR isn't a good car, it's probably the best car out there for the price, but warranty and god knows the mechanics suck at mitsubishi.

 

I put down a deposit in June for the MR, even though I had been trying to put a deposit down since April but they wouldn’t accept it. Like you said it wasn’t important because they had two anyway. Though I have to admit somewhere around august I got a refund on my deposit and I had to go in and put my money back down. I thought that was a little shady to begin with. I was extremely serious about buying the MR and I am still actively price searching for one still. I do not pay MSRP for any car. I could never look at any car and be happy with an MSRP purchase. That is just my personality. After I left the EVO dealer I did some research into buying an STI and I was offered 32 out the door mid month from more then one dealer. I think I can honestly push it even farther down more like 31 or even a miracle 30k OUT THE DOOR (tax, tags, frieght). I have found the MR for 700 below MSRP but I want better. I most likely will purchase a car (STI, EVO MR or GSR) at the end of the month and I think it depends on who is going to give me the best deal. Without thinking about reliability or any of the other extras I do love the MR. I think it boils down to who will give me the highest percentage off the MSRP and November 30th is the day the dealers will fight it out for my business. So far Subaru is up with 10% off the MSRP.



So how can I talk you into letting me sit copilot for a ride in that MR?

 

Hondan,


Make your decisions quick, the MR is a 1000 unit special edition car, there is 800 Mitusbishi dealers in the USA and within days you WILL NOT have a choice over buying a MR even if you are Mr Donald Trump.

At this point you are basicly turning down your already minimal chances to get a MR, If I were you I will seriously think about the Regular EVO or the STI since I almost want to bet that you WILL not get a MR due to the super high demand and super low production.

The STI is a great choice, I like that car, realisticly I did not bought the STI because I had a 03 WRX that breakdown twice costing me 2 tranys and no warranty.

I currently drive a MR and I must congratulate you for having the 3 top choices of cars (STI,EVO and EVO MR), everyone in this forums knows that any of these 3 cars are already bad *** so you can't go wrong with them. The regular WRX is not a option that I would recommend to someone.

If you think that the dealer can give you that price for sure go ahead and do it, the STI for 10% less is a great purchased.


After verification of income and credit report they were eager to sell me this car, they had to move 3 cars and a sponsor stand to pull the MR out of the showroom for my test drive. I Can't complaint, I got my MR for way less than average, first of all, they gave me a nearly $1000 saving for being in the military because I have the Lieu exception tax form applied. Further more, they gave me a disccount on the MSRP. Thirdly they are paying me another $100 for bringing them another friend that is ordering a MR as well, also I got my car's windows tinted and a credit of $1000 over my pay-off for my trade in. Got financed with a 3.6969% as well.
Last but not least, even the insurance dropped $66 every 6 months compared to my WRX.

Not only that, they took my WRX trade without current registration since it was expired for 2 months but also allowed me to give them a down payment in the next 45 days. and I was never required to give them a deposit of any kind($0.0000) and almost drove away with the car the same afternoon but couldn't because I was calling places for the best financing posible and also had to go to work. This dealer really bent over for me!!
On the other hand, in this forums people are saying that some dealers want $40000 for the MR in Cali and that is not even out the door. So if you can get your STI at that price, go ahead and take it otherwise the new 05 Regular EVO sounds promising.

Good luck!

 

Thank you, to all the people who have responded to my thread. I definitely will take into account everyone’s opinions. But I think I have decided to let it boil down to what dealer is more willing to work with me on price. I have added the regular Evo VIII GSR into the equation. I drove the 05 RS and I’m not sure I could live with white. I honestly believe if the RS was in black that would be the car for me. I will post pics of the WINNER at the end of the month.

 

Under MSRP for the MR Sounds like a great deal! Where are you located?

 

There are definately evo MR's out there in the market to be had. I honestly dont think I will meet my pricing goal on one but possibly a regular 05 GSR will make it into play. It sounds like you got a pretty damm good deal. I am not looking for financing so I have more power when I walk into a dealership. Hoping that works to my advantage but I have allot more research to do to find out what dealers have what by the end of the month.

 

I am located in VA. To anyone out there who is buying an MR make sure you don't pay a cent above MSRP especially right now. Do your homework and find a dealer that will give you the best possible deal. I am already 700 below and thats just over the phone.

This is a little comment that I want to make in general about car buying. You look over the net and all these websites tell you what the MSRP and Invoice is for a car. The true invoice for a car is always below what they have listed. Don't believe in the hype. If you walk into a dealer at the end of the month you can get 20% to 30% off of a NORMAL production car. Its not easy it usually takes about 6 hours of arguing and walking out and allot of homework into finding what dealers have overstock (other conditions apply like time of year, economies of scale, the economy at that point in time, if you need financing, the car market in general) but its always possible. NEVER PAID MSRP and I AM NOT STARTING ANY DAY SOON.

Limited production EVO MR- My *** if they sell out of the first 1000 of MR's by the end of the year I will bet you any amount of money they will be bringing another 1000. Business is Business Mitsubishi is not Ferrari who sells one less car then they can sell.

 

Yep, another 1000 will roll around as soon as these go, if there still is demand

 

Dealers are using a pricing technique that’s called skimming the market right now. Basically they are getting all the people who will pay MSRP and above. My prediction is if the dealers are able to sell all the MR’s by using this technique there will be a strong outcry from dealers to provide more MR’s. Mitsubishi in this position will produce more MR’s appropriately to dealer demand. At this point the talk about the next best thing (Evolution 9) will be loud and dealers will not be able to sell 05 MR’s at MSRP. So dealers will sell the MR at below MSRP at this point and some people who do there homework will be able to get their MR’s at 8 to 10 % below MSRP. The problem is I don’t think the demand is strong enough. If I thought it was I might just wait it out for about 6 month’s. With demand looking the way it is now I think in 6 month’s you will see more MR’s coming stateside and they will be able to be had at MSRP and below. I would say in 6 month’s you could get an MR for 5% to 6% below MSRP.

 

I would not play with fire. If you can afford it now get it, if it is available now, get it.

The official Mitusbishi site says 1000 units, that is it, other comments are just speculations.

Yes, sure, I follow you on your comments, you are saying that Mitsubishi is just monitoring the market to see how well this car sells.
Well, unfortunately we live in a country which we get the dirty plates, the detuned M3 240hp instead of 321hp (95-01), the detuned WRX's 227 instead of the available 280 hp, the detuned Volkswagen passats, Corrados,golfs, the Audis A3 instead of S3's, the detuned or decafeineted version of whatever car.

The MR is a car that is available already in Europe and Japan but USA has not strong demand for a massive production of this car. The WRX was a good seller because of the price and it came well equiped but look around you, seriously, the americans still love automatic cars, flat seats, tires with a 70 profile, supersoft suspension, no tachometers, cruise controls and plenty and plenty of trays so we can put the Coca-cola soda, the double cheeseburgers and the donuts.

In reality you, me and everyone in this forum that drives either WRX, STi, EVO or EVO MR we are a minority, we are the 1% of the sales well ok , 5% to be fair so Mitsubishi will do what they did in 2000, they got rid off the Eclipse Turbo and the 3000GT VR4 because off course the $reakin SUV market was basicly taking the entire sales.

Just watch, and remember what I said, just because we are minority we will not see many EVO MR's, Mitsubishi cares more about selling the best sellers SUV'S with NAV systems, DVD's and the fat and super ugly/heavy 20"rims off course "chromed" and with the worst 4 wheel vehicle stability/crash statistic in the world not to mention that SUV'S already leads for the worst gas mileage in the world

my .50 cents

 

Hondan,


Sorry to bother you again but I was thinking about your situation again this afternoon and I reiterate that there is going to be almost NO chance to get a MR if you keep waiting.

I can clearly see your strategy to see what dealer will give you the best deal on the price but please put yourself on their shoes(a salesman) . There is going to be a lot of people that unlike you are willing to pay either cash or finance the car so they can drive the car.

Do you really think that a Mitsubishi dealer will hold your offer?, 100% they will NOT for the simple fact that you are just another customer and whomever bring them the money first the sooner that they will sell the car(MR).

Something different will be if you already gave them a deposit, on that I can understand their obligation but other than that I think that you will loose the oportunity to buy the car because like I said there is 20 more people like you that want to buy the car and the dealer does not discriminate when it comes to money, the first one to show the green takes it.

Remember 2 years ago specifically the first week of October 2002 when the Nissan 350Z was launched, I was going to get one and I was going to be one of the 4 new owner in Tucson to own one but at the same time there was people posting the 350Z on ebay a couple of months before being release and they were advertizing a $5000 bit to be in the waiting list for that car, further more there were some 350Z for over $40000 on ebay.

I am not saying that this is going to happen to you but I am saying that people are oportunist, the Nissan 350Z wasn't that sporty or fast after all the demand was very high before the official launch of the car. On the MR situation, If l were you, I would secure the MR before is gone.


I really wish you luck and I wish you purchase the car since I think that you will like it a lot but take my advise, don't wait too long or someone elses will buy it before you and you will not have a chance.

Take care!!

 

Wow, you got a really good deal.