Well, lets hear from me..


Hi I am Carlos, I used to drive a 03 WRX yellow Sonic special Edition and now I drive a EVO MR.
Anyway, Hondan, I think that you should go to both dealers and try to drive both, I have driven both and I like the EVO MR better.
There are some confusions here in this thread, in fact you say that the price tag difference is $5000 correct? well, not really, the STI MSRP is $32295 and the Evo MR is $34999 that is $2700 if my math still works.

Motor and Trend magazine had $32770 base MSRP on the STI that they display versus the MR'S $34999 that is even less ($2229)

In addition to that you MUST add the following items since the STI lacks and the EVO MR comes standard:


Tripple gauge for the STI $568
Arm Extension $117
Carpeted floor with special logo $75
Fog lamp kit $354
short Throw shifter $395 correction - $439
Titanium shift knob $170 (The EVO MR's is actually aluminium)
Carbon Fiber parking brake handle $290

In addition the EVO has:

Rear downforce vortex
Rear glass wiper
Wider tires
Recaro seats
3 spoke alumium sport MOMO steering wheel

.. and lucky you that the 05 STI comes with a CD player.. EVO Mr comes with it stock, last year STI's cd player was one grand option($1000)!!!!

Well, after you add the MSRP plus these options that I just mentioned before the difference shrinks to just over $550


OHHHHH, Did I mentioned that Subaru only offers 3 year /36k miles oppps
Mitsubishi offers 10k/100000 miles warranty but hold on, they also offer free routine maitenance labor for the first 2 or 3 years

Moreover, the EVO MR is still faster on the track, and in pure acceleration PLUS it dyno 6 whp more than the STI so DO YOU STILL WANT TO BUY AN STI?

My point is, always know all the facts , loook around , search, drive, throw some numbers, read other people posts like mine, talk to people that went from EVO to STI and vicerversa and then make your decision.
My user name is :fromWRXtoEVO and that is for a reason, I had put $12k in my 03 WRX, I put 430hp to the crank and I broke 2 gearboxes in less than 2 months apart and Subaru dealer would not even accept me on their customer service at all, that means that they refused to work in my car and that is sad when you spent $28400 out of the door Sonic yellow Special edition car.

Try driving the regular EVO, they are awsome as well. As per manufacturer, I think that Mitsubishi wins, they already had great cars in the mid 80's like the Starion Turbo or mirage turbo, then the Eclipses and the 3000GT's. Trust me on this one I had 3 Eclipses turbos in the past, I currently drive a 91 GSX as well.

Subaru is still fresh on top performer, Mitsubishi leads the edge. Last but not least, I have a European magazine in which they Dynoed the EVO VII (280hp Version) which is the EVOVIII in the USA and it put 311hp to the flywheel. Same engine as the American version but just a bit detuned due to emissions regulations.

How would you explain that the EVO puts more power to the wheels, equal torque and still accelerate better? the answer is that the EVO engine produces wat more power than advertized.

At the end of the day, I still like borh cars, either way the STI is a great car and a serious competitor to the EVO MR. The WRX is not and option, is in a second class group.

Mi .50cents

 

Well, of course any car can be modded, but I was referring to my ability to mod it, which is nil. In general, the STi is much harder to work on. The average STi owner can't even change the spark plugs.

If you can buy an STi for 3-5k under MSRP, that's great. I didn't know their value had dropped so much.

 

OWN3D!!!

Nice job, Neil....

Get the MR....

 

So what about this guy's dyno runs?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=106268


I most definetly expect to get the thumps up on buying a MR on the EVO board

I myself if I was purchasing the two now I may have gone for an MR.



Cheers

Nick

 

I traded my sti for the MR. I'm not been bias in saying that the MR is actually quite easier to drive than the STI. It is extremely neutral and idiotproof I really do not understand why motortrend would say that the sti is easier to drive. When on track and a car is plowing through a turn, it is a scary feeling. the MR just does not understeer or plow. The STI would also be an excellent choice but it all comes down to your personal taste and preference. They are both capable cars that you will never know what their limits are unless you have tons of track days.

Choose your weapon

 

I sincerely think that people who say this about the STi don't give it a small "Scandanavian Flick" when entering a turn. Yes, the STi takes more effort to control and go fast around corners than an Evo but looks much cooler on tape! My friends and I do amateur video of our cars and let em tell you that my STi always steals the show!

 

Was that an 05 or an 04 STi?


cheers

Nick

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW



BUY IT NOW...on eBay $34,999

 

Looks like $500 off sticker.

Car looks good

Road trip.

Cheers

Nick

 

Yow home boi, evo mr is a way better buy. Ya the sti has more power, but it sacrifices that for handling and so on. Evo were made to be brutallized by the driver were as sti's and things like lambo's aren't. Go for the evo

 

I have to 100% disagree with your statement here. I have numerous friends with Evo's and STi's and I have owned an 04 and now own an 05 STi. Let's break it down:

White Evo-9000 miles needs new clutch (Dynoflashed)
Black Evo-15000 miles 4 transfer cases, new clutch (Vishnu Stage 1)
Silver Evo-9000 Miles replaced Clutch (Dynoflash, Intake, Fuel Pump)
White Evo Different than above-3000 miles, no problems yet, too early to tell

All the STi's that are around town (about 5 of them) have had no problems that I am aware of.

All the cars that I mentioned have been "brutalized" meaning track days, hard driving on the street, launches and drag racing.

Sorry 4G6316G6, but I just don't buy it.

 

Personally, i think it all comes down to looks. Whatever you like best is what is going to be chosen. However, from personal experience, i beleive the shift in the STi is just a tad bit less precise than in the new MR. (teflon cables, maybe?) Performance wise, they are so close that you can get one and if you just add an exhaust, you'll beat the other anyway. Either are extremely nice in my opinion

 

I don't put on shows, I like to be fast plain and simple.

 

It was an 04 sti. Suspension was actually tuned nicely. I spent a lot of time toying around with the suspension to get better response from the front end. I used to have to be very patient in corners with the sti. It is most evident when autocrossing.

 

I do have to agree with you that. The STI drivetrain is bulletproof. I never had a ny issues with it and I race that car every weekend. I must say that I do not do drop clutch launches. I modulate the clutch at around 4500 rpm and no clutch smell. I have 2300 mile son the MR so far and knock on wood no problem. I again modulate the clutch at 4000 rpm to get a nice and smooth launch. I do believe that ppl are using those car for what they are not (stock) and that is drag racing. You put a lot of money into more power but not the key components such as transfer case, stronger clucth and better transmission gears. In the end you will f something up.