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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Shady Mitsubishi sales pratice ....

the idea wht u should be paying for the car is just never there

it can be $40k or it can be invoice at 0%
ppl who buys at $40k are dumb azz by all means , but forcing other to pay $40k is just too hi on drug. unless suckers populataion > cars they can sell ( which is why mitsubishi can go bankrupt in no time)

This is one of the reasons why STI being sold 10 times more than Evo most of the time
customers dun like sticker shocks , they will just walk away.

really .... so often , u walked out the dealer =0 after seeing the sticker say $4k markup and go home without talking to anyone.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ODUB
and its because of people like you who are content to pay sticker that the rest of us have to fight not to. the people with that attitude have no idea how the system works. you can get them to do things they don't want you to if you know what you're doing.
What made you think I paid sticker? I paid INVOICE on my car but that was at the end of the year with the Evo 9 showing up at dealers next month. I would have waited except I knew that the Evo 9 MR would never go under sticker. Hell, they are selling used Evo 8 MR for close to retail price right now!

There is a difference between having a backbone vs being a stupid *** about it. Why don't you go boycott gasoline? Go in and tell them you refuse to pay the price and they got to lower it for you. They will laugh in your face and tell you to get out.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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well good luck, we are all waiting for the results. if your savings are good enough, you can come down and help me out w/ a IXMR.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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You're right to refuse to pay sticker. Call every dealer within 150 miles. Get them to compete but be polite of course. They may all refuse you at first, then wait a couple weeks and they'll start calling you. I get calls all the time now from dealers who refused to give me MSRP and now want to work a deal. Too late for them, now I'm waiting for 1000 under.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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All I know is I work for a dealership and I've been trying to get a price under sticker for one of my best friends and the dealership won't budge. You may think it's bs but as long as they are selling for above sticker at places, none of the other dealerships are going to come down off of sticker. If you want the dealership to make no money off a car think of it this way, would you work for free?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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All I know is I work for a dealership and I've been trying to get a price under sticker for one of my best friends and the dealership won't budge. You may think it's bs but as long as they are selling for above sticker at places, none of the other dealerships are going to come down off of sticker. If you want the dealership to make no money off a car think of it this way, would you work for free?
I hardly think 3% over invoice is working for free.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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But if a sales manager came up to you and said ok we can make this deal but we're going to have to use your salesmans commision to make up the difference, who's going to say no? I'm always honest and up front to all of my customers but I rarely get the same from the customer.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Hopefully I can shed some light on this topic...

I am in sales/finance at a very large car dealership, and we sell Mitsubishi. I own a 2005 Evo 8. First off, theres only a couple grand of markup on these cars. New cars don't make anyone jack. Used cars are where the money is.

Second, don't expect to get a special deal on an Evo 9. They JUST came out, and theres plenty of people willing to pay good money for them. Best bargaining season is towards the end of a model year, when the dealers need to clear out inventory. Brand new models at the beginning of the model year aren't easily bargained on.

I couldn't buy an Evo 9 right now for anything close to what I bought my 8 for a couple months ago, and I am an employee.

Don't get your hopes up for a spectacular discount. Someone else will buy it for more, trust me. But best of luck, they are worth sticker price anyway.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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wow

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jperryrocks
I'm in auto sales, and I would kick a customer like you to the curb in skinny minute. Too many other prospects, repeat customers, and reasonable people to deal with.

At my dealership (not a mitsu place), no customer is allowed to put a deposit on a car until we've agreed on numbers for the car. What's the purpose of putting a deposit on a car if you haven't agreed up the sales price? Any dealership that would allow 2 salespeople from the same dealership to "fight" for your business is a poorly run dealership with bad management.

I work at a high-line dealership now and did spend several years in the past working for a mitsubishi dealership. If I had a dollar for every young punk you said there mom or dad was going to buy them an evo or an eclipse, I'd be a rich man. I'm glad I'm not there anymore.

who is the young punk? and who's parents are buying them an evo? i wish mine were. im paying for this evo myself just as i have every car i've ever owned. im droppin 10k on it, financing the rest. i plan to pay it off in a year or so. i could just pay for the muthafcker cash if i wanted to. personally i dont give a sh it about what anybody who thinks paying sticker is a good idea has said about what i plan to do. i'm buying an evo, and i'm not paying sticker price for it. period. why is there always such an uproar on this forum whenever somebody does something different from what you did? probably because the average age here is in the teens. and to the idiots complaining about the format of my posts: last time i checked, i graduated college in 2000. this is not a term paper. the format is not important. the content is. if you don't have the brain power to be able to read sentences without them being setup in a certain way that you're used to, that sounds like a personal problem to me. good ol' public school system at work again. getting an evo, not paying sticker. i'm out
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyEVO2NR
Hopefully I can shed some light on this topic...

I am in sales/finance at a very large car dealership, and we sell Mitsubishi. I own a 2005 Evo 8. First off, theres only a couple grand of markup on these cars. New cars don't make anyone jack. Used cars are where the money is.

Second, don't expect to get a special deal on an Evo 9. They JUST came out, and theres plenty of people willing to pay good money for them. Best bargaining season is towards the end of a model year, when the dealers need to clear out inventory. Brand new models at the beginning of the model year aren't easily bargained on.

I couldn't buy an Evo 9 right now for anything close to what I bought my 8 for a couple months ago, and I am an employee.

Don't get your hopes up for a spectacular discount. Someone else will buy it for more, trust me. But best of luck, they are worth sticker price anyway.
see what you people are forgetting is what market i'm shopping in. one guy touched on it already. im in louisiana. there is almost NO market for evo's out here. when a dealership here gets one, it's like they've been cursed with the plague because that car will sit for a year, EASY. this isn't california where everybody and their mother knows what evo's are, and are in a frenzy to get them. out here and in texas, it's just another car. a very expensive car that not many people around here want. this is why im confident i can get a better deal than the people here that paid sticker. what have i been saying all along? if one dealer won't do what you want, find one who will. no dealer in cali would do what i want, but i've got a damn good shot at one in louisiana doing it. you guys really should pay attention to the details before you start going off with all these wild scenarios. on top of the fact that nobody in LA wants evo's, the majority of salespeople are weak. they'll cave far sooner than i will, i can promise you that. so one more time for the slow kids in the back of the class: i'm buying an evo, not paying sticker. peacE

thanks to the people who actually understand that paying sticker is NOT a bargin
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kinetic
Come on guys, don't scare him away! This thread is quite comical!

ODUB, you are exactly the reason why car salesmen have such a negative image.

wow, you're an idiot. i'm not a car salesman. however, when i was in sales, i was damn good at what i did. i still have relationships with many of my customers, and if they have any questions about their cars, i still help them when i can. i've been out of the business for over a year now, and i'm still helping my old customers. yeah, cuz nobody wants a car salesman like that.

Originally Posted by ZK
What made you think I paid sticker? I paid INVOICE on my car but that was at the end of the year with the Evo 9 showing up at dealers next month. I would have waited except I knew that the Evo 9 MR would never go under sticker. Hell, they are selling used Evo 8 MR for close to retail price right now!

There is a difference between having a backbone vs being a stupid *** about it. Why don't you go boycott gasoline? Go in and tell them you refuse to pay the price and they got to lower it for you. They will laugh in your face and tell you to get out.
this one too...you're an idiot. any idiot can go buy an outgoing model for invoice price. if i wanted a car that was already a year old when i bought it, i would have gotten an 05 too. the bit about gasoline was just stupid, especially since i work for citgo petroleum haha. you're a fcking weak *** customer. "i knew they would NEVER go under sticker." how do you know? you didn't even try. you don't know sh it. you're just another ***** scared to get told no. when you grow a pair someday maybe you'll learn that you can get just about anything you want if you aren't afraid to try. until then, have fun buying year old new cars.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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You're the idiot for starting a thread like this and I'm just having some fun. Is this your first car? When do you get your drivers license? Have fun and good luck. After all, you've had an extensive 18 month career in sales so you're far better equiped then me. I've owned more cars then you've been alive in years. The best way to cut a deal is to be cool and work with your dealership. Do some research, know what you're willing to pay, and if it doesn't work out go home. Being a d*ck isn't going to get you far. BTW, I don't pay sticker for a car unless it's rare and difficult to find. An EvoIX MR right now, is rare and you're going to pay sticker. It might be a different strory in six months. Talk sh*t after you buy the car not before. OK, tough guy.

what kinds of questions are these? when did i get my driver's license? summer of 1995. does that make a difference? no. is this my first car? i own 3 cars right now, and have had 3 others before these. so that would be another NO. i've got a couple for you. which short bus do you ride to school? does your mom still change your diapers? do you still wet the bed? and isn't it passed your bedtime?

to the dumbass talking about someone not cutting it in auto sales: i cut it just fine. my first month on the job i led my sales team to second in the company with a total of 5 salespeople. the first place team finished 3 units ahead of us, with 10 salespeople on the team. i cut it just fine. i didn't like the hours, and i really don't like sales. i took the job to make good money until a job opened in the field i have a degree in. since you wanted to know, i'm a process operator for citgo petroleum.

haters, haters, haters. to the people that made points about LA being a dead market for EVO's, thank you. to the people who know that salespeople, and sales managers are not Gods, and will cave if you hit them right, thank you. to the people who wish me luck because they too know it's retarded to pay full price for anything without trying to get a better deal, thank you. to the rest of you, better hurry or the short bus is gonna leave you and 3240 behind again.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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oh, as an afterthought... to the dumbass that said something about the dealership not accepting a deposit on a vehicle to hold it until i work numbers. tell me who would work numbers on a car they haven't seen yet. not me. they don't have the car i want yet. it won't be in until around the time i'm ready to buy it. i'm going to leave a deposit, so that when it does come in it'll be waiting for me. must i explain everything to you people? it's like being in a classroom with a bunch of 4th grade children. buying cars is not rocket science. it's not some big scary event. salespeople are people. usually weak *** people. like the guy complaining about customers not being honest with him. no sh it. they aren't there to be your buddy. they are there to get a car at the best price they can, by any means. you need to toughen up or customers are gonna eat your *** alive.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Jesus guys, is all this really neccessary?

ODUB - Dont worry about it. Some people just love to argue... This is actually between you, your money, and the dealership. I hope you get a good deal!

Good Luck!



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