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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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hahahahah update already...im getting ready to leave right now. before i could walk out of the door, one of the salespeople called me. he called to see what time i would be coming to see him tomorrow. i told him that i was going to see the other guy because i've been dealing with him longer. then i told him that i've been hearing that everybody's selling the things at sticker. i went on to say that if all of you are selling me the car at the same the same price, then it doesn't matter where i get it. i told him i'd just get it from the guy i started working with first. next words out of his mouth were, "i'll discount the car." we talked for another 5 minutes, he wants to sell that MR pretty bad and he sounds like the weakest of the 3 so far. he's already agreeing to try and discount the car for me as much as he can. what that means, i don't know. but it is a start. i'f i can get 500-1000 off and a free window tint, i'll be happy. =) put down the haterade and watch a man work...peacE
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fugiwara
The supply of MR is very limited, if you don't want to pay for full MSRP, somebody else will, this is not a car that will not sell, this is not a LANCER!!!

please, nobody else post this. THIS IS NOT CALIFORNIA. NOBODY HERE WANTS EVO's. THIS STATE GETS MAYBE 5-10 EVO'S A YEAR, AND THE DEALERSHIPS THAT DO GET THEM DON'T WANT THEM. YES, THEY ARE THAT HARD TO SELL HERE. when it comes to evo's, louisiana is a buyer's market. i've already had one guy throw in a free window tint, and another offer to discount the car. before this is over, one of them will do both, and i'll drive off in an EVO IX MR. as for holding the car for a long time, that won't be neccessary. i plan to work the figures, and sign a buyer's order on the car tomorrow. i'll leave a 4000 deposit on the car for now, then in a couple weeks i'll bring the other 6000 for down payment. if they'll hold a check for the 10,000 downpayment for a couple weeks, i'll just go ahead and take the car home tomorrow.
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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another thing i have to ask. why are you people so negative? what's with all this, "it can't be done," business? what kind of attitude is that to have when you're going into a fight that you will need everything you've got to win? i can tell none of you idiots ever played any sports, or worked in business, or have ever competed in anything. if you have, i can tell you weren't any good at it. no way you could have been with these loser attitudes. when you go into a battle, you cover all of your bases first. think about every angle you could hit the situation from, and find out as much information as possible. then you make sure you only focus on the reasons it will work, not on the reasons it won't. if you constantly sit around saying you're going to lose, then guess what. you're going to lose. i don't have the loser mentality. i don't lose. i go in, i play rough, i fight for what i want, and don't stop until i get it. i don't understand why you would want to have any other attitude when buying anything, especially a car. i will say one thing, mitsubishi's sales and marketing department have really done their job well. they've got all of you idiots broken before you even walk through the doors. they've got you convinced that sticker is not only the best deal, but the only deal in the whole world. when somebody tells you it can't be done, you just accept it? wtf? i love a challenge. i want you to tell me it can't be done. i want to hear it over, and over, and over again just to make it even funnier when i get it done. if it can't be done i have to see it for myself. nothing's impossible, it just takes one person to find a way to do it. stop believing what the sales people and the internet tells you. go out and find out for yourself. that's what i do. that's why i'm not paying sticker for this car. peacE

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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another thing i have to ask. why are you people so negative? what's with all this, "it can't be done," business? what kind of attitude is that to have when you're going into a fight that you will need everything you've got to win? i can tell none of you idiots ever played any sports, or worked in business, or have ever competed in anything. if you have, i can tell you weren't any good at it. no way you could have been with these loser attitudes. when you go into a battle, you cover all of your bases first. think about every angle you could hit the situation from, and find out as much information as possible. then you make sure you only focus on the reasons it will work, not on the reasons it won't. if you constantly sit around saying you're going to lose, then guess what. you're going to lose. i don't have the loser mentality. i don't lose. i go in, i play rough, i fight for what i want, and don't stop until i get it. i don't understand why you would want to have any other attitude when buying anything, especially a car. i will say one thing, mitsubishi's sales and marketing department have really done their job well. they've got all of you idiots broken before you even walk through the doors. they've got you convinced that sticker is not only the best deal, but the only deal in the whole world. when somebody tells you it can't be done, you just accept it? wtf? i love a challenge. i want you to tell me it can't be done. i want to hear it over, and over, and over again just to make it even funnier when i get it done. if it can't be done i have to see it for myself. nothing's impossible, it just takes one person to find a way to do it. stop believing what the sales people and the internet tells you. go out and find out for yourself. that's what i do. that's why i'm not paying sticker for this car. peacE
It's not that it "can't be done," because it can. People are ripping on you (or at least I am) because you sound like an a**.
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I cannot believe that I just read this entire thread.... good luck is all that I have to say.

I ended up getting my 03 for $26.2k but that was when the 04's were coming out.
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It's not that it "can't be done," because it can. People are ripping on you (or at least I am) because you sound like an a**.
bullsh it. don't start the backpeddling bullsh it already. you were leading the "it can't be done," parade. damn that, you said it can't be done. stick to your fu ckin statement so i can shove it up your a ss when i do what i said i would. my original post said nothing but my intentions. you guys then proceeded to knit pick every fu cking word in the post, and just making off the wall points. then everybody starts with this "it can't be done" bullsh it. i don't really give a sh it whether the idiots here "rip" on me or not. there are some people here with common sense that realize the EVO is JUST A CAR, and that salespeople are JUST PEOPLE. most of whom are WEAK. those same people also know that louisiana is a dead market for EVO's. dealer's don't want them because nobody buys them. most dealerships make you special order them only after you've bought it. they will not get an EVO unless it's paid for before it arrives because they know they'll never get rid of it. knowing what i know about MY OWN market, the car business, how to get people to do what i want, and people's behavior in general, i have long since concluded that getting an EVO below sticker is not only possible, but it should actually be pretty damn easy for anybody willing to try.

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Sebby
Odub,

Save yourself the hassle, I will sell you one for $1.00 under MSRP! You can get my price on the tint!

Those other guys are gonna play the game and grind on you when you get there... ahh... nevermind... you already know everything.

When you find out that they wont, call me and I promise you can pay $1.00 under MSRP!

Best regards,

one more added to the growing list of dumbasses. nobody knows everything, but i know alot more about the situation i'm facing right now than you do. good to see you're still hating, and not backpeddling like the other guy. i don't agree with what you have to say, but i respect a man that doesn't change his position. if you showed that kind of determination when buying a car, you wouldn't have to pay sticker either.
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When I buy a car!

Originally Posted by ODUB
one more added to the growing list of dumbasses. nobody knows everything, but i know alot more about the situation i'm facing right now than you do. good to see you're still hating, and not backpeddling like the other guy. i don't agree with what you have to say, but i respect a man that doesn't change his position. if you showed that kind of determination when buying a car, you wouldn't have to pay sticker either.
When I buy a car I get it for $100.00 over invoice! Just so you know! Not all dealerships will do that for their employees! I dont have to negotiate. I just sign on the dotted line!

Like I said, Im not hating, Im just saying I will sell you an EVO for $1.00 under MSRP!

Talk to you soon,
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Sebby
When I buy a car I get it for $100.00 over invoice! Just so you know! Not all dealerships will do that for their employees! I dont have to negotiate. I just sign on the dotted line!

Like I said, Im not hating, Im just saying I will sell you an EVO for $1.00 under MSRP!

Talk to you soon,
you're the first person to be listed on the dumbass list twice, congrats! which one of my posts gave anyone here the impression that i will be surprised, or that i give a sh it if the salesperson "plays games and grinds" on me? NO SH IT! that's what salespeople do. they play games. the thing is, it's not hard to beat somebody weak in a game that they suck at. i expect a fight. i WANT a fight. that's why i've prepared for a fight. unless you have something new to add to the discussion, why even post?
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Sebby
When I buy a car I get it for $100.00 over invoice! Just so you know! Not all dealerships will do that for their employees! I dont have to negotiate. I just sign on the dotted line!

Like I said, Im not hating, Im just saying I will sell you an EVO for $1.00 under MSRP!

Talk to you soon,

oh and the 100.00 over invoice thing is funny. when i worked for the dealership i got my cars for invoice or less. they charged some salespeople 1000.00 over. they didn't to the ones who simply pointed out, "we sell these cars to customers at invoice all the time if we have to. i'm a customer too, and i'm sure as hell not paying more than some ******* off the street because he raised hell and i didn't." the ones who laid down, paid 1000.00 over. the ones who said im not paying, got what they wanted. i could still go back there today and buy an 06 S2000 and get that ***** for invoice if i wanted one. anything's possible if you know what you're up against well enough to know how to defeat it.
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oh and the 100.00 over invoice thing is funny. when i worked for the dealership i got my cars for invoice or less. they charged some salespeople 1000.00 over. they didn't to the ones who simply pointed out, "we sell these cars to customers at invoice all the time if we have to. i'm a customer too, and i'm sure as hell not paying more than some ******* off the street because he raised hell and i didn't." the ones who laid down, paid 1000.00 over. the ones who said im not paying, got what they wanted. i could still go back there today and buy an 06 S2000 and get that ***** for invoice if i wanted one. anything's possible if you know what you're up against well enough to know how to defeat it.
I wouldnt say what you are trying to do is impossible its just improbable right now! Dealerships are just now getting these vehicles in!

You know how it is! You sound like you have some experience. I am sure you will get the deal you are looking for!

Just consider my offer as a back up plan. It is always good to have a back up plan and a friend in the business. Im sure I could do better, but I feel that $100.00 over invoice is a fair and reasonable deal for an employee. Just like I feel that MSRP is a fair and reasonable deal for a customer.

I dont walk into Citgo and negotiate the price of your gasoline! See what I am saying?

Best regards,
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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bullsh it. don't start the backpeddling bullsh it already. you were leading the "it can't be done," parade. damn that, you said it can't be done. stick to your fu ckin statement so i can shove it up your a ss when i do what i said i would. my original post said nothing but my intentions. you guys then proceeded to knit pick every fu cking word in the post, and just making off the wall points. then everybody starts with this "it can't be done" bullsh it. i don't really give a sh it whether the idiots here "rip" on me or not. there are some people here with common sense that realize the EVO is JUST A CAR, and that salespeople are JUST PEOPLE. most of whom are WEAK. those same people also know that louisiana is a dead market for EVO's. dealer's don't want them because nobody buys them. most dealerships make you special order them only after you've bought it. they will not get an EVO unless it's paid for before it arrives because they know they'll never get rid of it. knowing what i know about MY OWN market, the car business, how to get people to do what i want, and people's behavior in general, i have long since concluded that getting an EVO below sticker is not only possible, but it should actually be pretty damn easy for anybody willing to try.
You are a dork.

Also, you're not going to get an Evo IX MR for under sticker yet. And what makes you think that a salesperson has the authority to discount this car? Keep me posted though as I find you to be comical.

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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I wouldnt say what you are trying to do is impossible its just improbable right now! Dealerships are just now getting these vehicles in!

You know how it is! You sound like you have some experience. I am sure you will get the deal you are looking for!

Just consider my offer as a back up plan. It is always good to have a back up plan and a friend in the business. Im sure I could do better, but I feel that $100.00 over invoice is a fair and reasonable deal for an employee. Just like I feel that MSRP is a fair and reasonable deal for a customer.

I dont walk into Citgo and negotiate the price of your gasoline! See what I am saying?

Best regards,
yeah i do know how it is. that's why i know how to get what i want. there are certain circumstances that override the value of any car, including evo's. why can't you people understand that the evo IS JUST ANOTHER CAR. find a desperate salesperson looking for a bonus, to meet his quota at the end of the month, to win a sales contest, or just to beat another sales person, and if they are in need of just 1 more unit they will not lose a sure deal. you get somebody like that, walk in with perfect credit, and 10,000 in hand, they're not going to let you walk out. no salesperson will pass up a for sure sale this month for a possible sale next month unless he's already got 15-20 units out and not worried about it. these guys don't strike me as the 15-20 a month type. they are nervous, unsure, trying to make the sale. when sellers compete, you win. i've got them competing. i win. the walk into citgo thing is stupid because we don't sell gasoline at the plant, and the prices aren't regulated there either. car's are sold at the dealership, and the prices are regulated there. next time, try and find a better analogy. you also used the magic word. improbable. i do alot of **** that's improbable. improbable means that there is a chance. slim though it may be, there's a chance. if there's enough room for me to get a foot in the door, it's getting kicked wide open because i've got big feet. now stop will the damn backpeddling. don't switch to "improbable." stay with "impossible." i'm looking forward to shoving this back up everybody's a ss when this is over. so bring on the hate, i like it.
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You are a dork.

Also, you're not going to get an Evo IX MR for under sticker yet. And what makes you think that a salesperson has the authority to discount this car? Keep me posted though as I find you to be comical.

and as for you... lead moron on duty. kiss my a ss. the salesperson has alot more power than you think. if you can get two salespeople fighting over a deal, you've got something. if you can get a salesperson fighting his salesmanger for you, then you are IN THERE. if the salesperson really wants the deal, he'll do what it takes. i can remember many deals when my manager didn't want to cut when he should, and wanted to cut when he shouldn't. so i just found ways to get around him, and get the deal done. if a salesperson has worked a customer long and hard enough, and the customer is a serious buyer and wants something reasonable, that sales manager will not let the deal go. i'm not asking for anything crazy. i don't know who started the whole, "you want some super discount, greatest deal ever, invoice," blah blah blah. all i said was that i wasn't paying sticker, and that i was gonna get a deal i could be happy with. 500-1000 off will do it for me. i've already got the free window tint no matter what because it's a dealership wide promotion on 05's. i talked my way into getting it on the 06. didn't take much. voice inflection will do wonders. i didn't say anything too forceful, i just said it in a tone that made it sound like it would be a deal breaker if the free tint wasn't included. he offered to pay for the tint himself (out of the gross i'm assuming, which is discounting the car right there). the other guy just said he'd come off the price when i pointed out that if you're all going to sell it for the same price then it doesn't matter where i get it from. i told him if that was the case i'd get it from the guy i'd been working with longer. another effective tactic is my demeanor. i dont get excited about anything. i'm laid back, and i generally just don't care. they could say they were giving me the car for free, and the biggest reaction out of me would be, "ok," with the same, "i don't give a ****," face. they think i'm about to walk out at all times so they are trying to keep me there. alright, enough on the lessons, i'm going to get something to eat and see what i can get into out here in H-town...peacE
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and as for you... lead moron on duty. kiss my a ss. the salesperson has alot more power than you think. if you can get two salespeople fighting over a deal, you've got something. if you can get a salesperson fighting his salesmanger for you, then you are IN THERE. if the salesperson really wants the deal, he'll do what it takes. i can remember many deals when my manager didn't want to cut when he should, and wanted to cut when he shouldn't. so i just found ways to get around him, and get the deal done. if a salesperson has worked a customer long and hard enough, and the customer is a serious buyer and wants something reasonable, that sales manager will not let the deal go. i'm not asking for anything crazy. i don't know who started the whole, "you want some super discount, greatest deal ever, invoice," blah blah blah. all i said was that i wasn't paying sticker, and that i was gonna get a deal i could be happy with. 500-1000 off will do it for me. i've already got the free window tint no matter what because it's a dealership wide promotion on 05's. i talked my way into getting it on the 06. didn't take much. voice inflection will do wonders. i didn't say anything too forceful, i just said it in a tone that made it sound like it would be a deal breaker if the free tint wasn't included. he offered to pay for the tint himself (out of the gross i'm assuming, which is discounting the car right there). the other guy just said he'd come off the price when i pointed out that if you're all going to sell it for the same price then it doesn't matter where i get it from. i told him if that was the case i'd get it from the guy i'd been working with longer. another effective tactic is my demeanor. i dont get excited about anything. i'm laid back, and i generally just don't care. they could say they were giving me the car for free, and the biggest reaction out of me would be, "ok," with the same, "i don't give a ****," face. they think i'm about to walk out at all times so they are trying to keep me there. alright, enough on the lessons, i'm going to get something to eat and see what i can get into out here in H-town...peacE
You're wrong. The salesperson has no power. Go away and don't come back until you buy your Evo IX MR for under sticker. Tool!

Free window tint on a car that you don't own yet. You're the man.



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