talking about weight, even my IX MR, I thought it should be lighter, just 2 airbags, aluminum suspension, paperweight carpeting, recaro superlightweight seats, small fuel tank hardly any padding-but guess what, it is at least 100lbs heavier than the cayman and the 911. How can the P-car manage to have less weight vs the 9? maybe it is the 4g63 which we all know is a "heavyweight!"

 

It doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I've been saying for years that Mitsu doesn't know the US market from a hole in their exhaust. (g-rated version) The way they market and price their vehicles is rediculous. You'd think a company that big would have better marketing strategies for our market. Always wondered why they didn't come out with a non-turbo AWD version like the subie RS of old. Much better price point and it would've catered to all those who end up upgrading turbos anyways. New turbo=easy. New AWD system=look for another option. Too bad though, I like Mitsu's cars.

 

I do think the AWD argument has merit. I started out with an 04 Ralliart, and was a fun fun car. But FWD drove me nuts. I had to have AWD... so I went to an Evo. Now my girl is looking for a new car (has an OZ rally currently), and wants a ralliart but they are priced as much as an Evo! Those are the two AWD options... $30k or no AWD. Whatever.

 

It took years before they would speak a good word about DSM

 

yes, they are all simply out to get all things Mitsubishi. and you know who's behind all this, The man on the grassy knoll

 

I would hate to see that from any car company. I hope Mitsu can pull out of the red. With some many other companys pulling out of dif. motorsports tell me the era is coming to a close. It sucks!

 

Even in Japan for the longest time Mitsu did not have a very good reputation according to a friend there. I don't know about recently. Prior to the Evo maybe the best thing they built for transportation was the Mistubishi Zero during WW II.

 

Where are you shopping. I got my RA out the door for a little under 26.

 

I was speaking with all the options... 29k + taxes.

 

 

I've been here for a while, and there are plenty of anti-Mitsu posts.

Perfect backtrack. Why waste time backing up your false statement with proof? It took me two whole minutes of searching to find the articles I linked to on the X.

No excuses for the X. Ralliart just has the unfortunate position as the Jan Brady of the bunch. If there were no Evo it would have placed higher and get lot better press. Every review of every Mitsu vehicle I read seems to spend half the space where the author wishes he were driving an Evo, comparing whatever car it is to the Evo and saying Mitsu probably wouldn't be in jeopardy if it injected Evo DNA in the rest of the lineup. After about a page of whining, they might finally get down to reviewing the vehicle for what it is and then finish by saying something to the effect of, "yeah its okay, but its no Evo."

 

I think it is a misuse of the name. I would rather it have been a Lancer GSX or VR-X or something instead. When I was still working for them word was the bosses in Japan didn't thin we were ready for Ralliart and wouldn't launch the brand, that and a shortage of money, but yet they let MMNA ***** the name out buy sticking it on FWD Lancers and Galants, and almost an Endeavor. So most likely it was just lack of money.

 

what a silly/funny thing to say. if there was no Evo, RA wouldnt even make it to a comparison, like every other Mitsu never makes it. Evo is the only leg has to stand on.

and can you blame magazines for comparing every mitsu vehicle to the Evo ?? When they test the mazda 6, dont they make comments that its a decent car but "its no MazdaSpeed3"?? and when they test a Pontiac G6, dont they say "why cant this be more like a Pontiac G8??"
if a company makes one great car, and 5 average ones, why wouldnt the independent tester compare these sucky cars to that one great one, saying "hey manufacturer, u found the right formula once, why not do it again ?
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unfortunately, I have not been crazy happy with my evo IX in the last year of ownership. @14k after purchase i had it in the shop for alignment issues. This may have been due to the coilovers. a few months later I had a break line blow out on me. That was a fun first time experience to drive with no breaks. Maybe due to the coilovers. I had my break pads changed and they skwiik! to all hell. maybe due to the fact that i did not want to spend $$ for the stock break pads. The engine needs high revving when its cold out to keep the thing from stalling if you dont have time to worm up the car. Love the trani whine when i downshift at high rmp. The paint will chip if you look at it funny. Other then that i have had a blast.

 

(I remember you used to work with mitsu). well at least they did not label it "evolution" like they did in the UK where they labeled everything souped up as shogun evolution, challenger evolution, etc. but the FQ following is just too much they can actually afford to do that.