Just read that one too ^^

 

Yeah but these articles don't say anything about them Making a EVOXI. Is there any word on that?

 

There's no word on that yet. The article mentions, "All -- or most -- will reportedly be revealed later this year, as Mitsubishi management is expected to roll out its mid-term business plan sometime in November."

Have to wait until then.

 

they can plan ahead for CAFE standards (hybrid/electric tech, etc.) while still offering gas guzzlers while they still can. i still honestly do believe in the halo car. the race on sunday, sell on monday mentality. by offering a performance oriented version of the outlander sport it makes a statement right away. even if fewer people buy that trim, the car gets out there. it markets itself by people like us talking about it. magazines are more willing to talk about it. it is MORE than an appliance and a cheap means of transportation. there are tons of articles about the evo. very very few on the lancer RA and almost none on the lancer GTS. make boring cars and nobody cares about them. nobody cares, nobody buys.

the 3rd gen eclipse rode the coat tails of the performance 2nd gen eclipses. it was the age of "fast and furious". the eclipse name still meant something back then ONLY because of the 2nd gen turbo monsters that were still fresh in our minds. would paul walker's character have had an eclipse if it was a crappy 3rd gen instead of the 2nd gen? no... the 3rd gen eclipse was the death of that nameplate because it was so bad. so while it fooled a lot of people (highest selling gen) into buying it, it was only due to the earlier models that built that name up. the 4th gen followed the crappy 3rd gen and by that time the eclipse name was in the *******....

i say revive it and dont be afraid to "dilute" the evo and RA engine and drivetrain by offering it in more models as a high end performance model. the evo can get the good bits first, but if that tech goes unused, why bother? nissan's awesome VQ engine? they put that **** in everything.... BMW n54/n55 engine? again its in everything... so the RA engine should be in everything also. simple... AWC or S-AWC? the tech and parts are there, friggin use it!!!

subaru and audi have the whole AWD marketing strategy, yet mitsu's AWD systems are better and yet not marketed as such. another failed opportunity...

 

Thanks.

It'd be a shame for them not to keep the EVO's going.

 

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...47/1179/BLOG06

 

It doesn't work that way. I don't see the point of trying to discuss this unless you research more into how long the R&D phase of bringing new tech to market is. If you understood it better, you wouldn't say things like that. "the offering while they can" is NOW by letting the V6 Endeavor and V6 Eclipse stay on the market until 2013. The V6 Galant has already been phased out.

I have heard they were going to offer the Outlander Sport with the Lancer Ralliart's drivetrain.

I do not believe that a car that is forced to make concessions to a cream puff market can be its best on the flagship model from either an engineering standpoint or a sales stand point. I think the engineers have to dilute the car to make it cheap and viable enough for a cheerleader model to be available. I think buyers of the big dog model are turned off by the fact that some 18 y.o. could conceivably pull right up next to them on her way to cheerleading practice in a watered version of their car. You may end up making a few bucks on selling base models, but you will gimp sales of the halo versions. True halo cars like the Corvette, Viper, GT-R do not have cream puff cheap models. So many haters and critics of the Evo constantly bring up its econobox roots in order to dismiss its credentials, and I'm sick of it. If Mitsubishi were truly to step into the halo car realm again, they do not need to base it on a cheaper model. Nissan did the right thing by dropping "Skyline" out of its car's name and calling it GT-R world wide. It is its own beast.

This is just pure speculation on your part to which I disagree completely. The people who bought 3Gs were the same people who bought 2G non turbos and other people who didn't want a stuffy Accord coupe. The V6 option was taken far more often then the turbos ever were. I was there. I sold them personally. I attended Mitsubishis sales meetings and saw their numbers of the demographics of their car. Nothing about the Paul Walkers 2G or Tyrese's 3G was ever brought up. The 4G did not succeed, even though it followed the same formula, because the competition got better. The Scion tC. The Accord Coupe. The Altima Coupe. The long awaited Camaro. All those put nails in the Eclipses coffin. It had good styling, but did not bring enough to the table.

It looks to me like they are bring AWD and turbo back to the table and offered in all models. But right now Lancer is the only complete line up - we don't know what's coming next.

 

i never feared mitsu pulling out.

i just fear the brand will be made into a 100% economy and "green" brand. if that happens, the death of the evo as a performance car would be very near...

evo XI based off the PX miev? PUH LEEZ!

 

im not talking about making anything new, i just meant to use the 2.4L NA and 2.0L Turbo engines more liberally when i talked about the "gas guzzlers". the parts are there. why dont they use it? it makes no sense!

a true halo car would not make sense. but they have successfully parlayed the evo styling into their entire lineup. why not parlay the engine turbo tech? the AWD tech? that's what i mean. to me the Evo has never been a "halo car" in the sense of a corvette or NSX. to me it was always in the mustang GT realm. the attainable supercar so to speak. and by that, the car's tech should be parlayed into the lower models. i dont expect every car to have S-AWC with AYC, but they dont even use the RA's AWC.... heck they dont even use the basic AWD system that the japanese lancers have.... ridiculous for a company whose claim to fame is rallying and dakar racing...

yes it is pure speculation, but is it really that far off? any car guy can tell you that the mitsu brand perception has died. is the theory that far fetched that our (enthusiast's) brand perception trickles down into the cheerleader's perception? did kids in school not talk about their new eclipse thus making it a "cool car"?

 

this is good news.

i REALLY hope this happens. imo it would save the company. make exciting cars once again and people will start to want one again.

if you build it, they will come...

 

I really hope not, man I hate the US and there strict automotive laws. We miss out on a lot of cool cars!

 

Well, like I said, there may one day be an Outlander Sport Ralliart. And they already use S-AWC in the Outlander. There's already a Lancer Ralliart and a Lancer Sportback Ralliart. So there current core market is covered in their tech, or will be. You can't just throw all that at the old Project America cars, they are just done.

I totally agree. The Evo is their halo, and it doesn't need a unique factory or platform to build it. Its perfect.


Yes I really believe it is. Most people I know with DSMs bought them second hand. Most tuners in general bought their cars used. As a group, we really don't drive the new car market. Even the tuner scene in general has kind of stagnated over the last few years. When gas shot up to over three bucks a gallon in 2006 when the 4G came out, the car was a tough sell because people looked to brands like Honda, who always had the best mileage among imports. So the Civic Coupe (which I forgot to mention) along with the tC took away most of our Eclipse GS (4 cylinder buyers) If people wanted a bigger car, you could get an Accord coupe 4 cylinder or a 6, which still had better economy then Mitsu's 6G75 and 4 spd combo.

I don't know about this. Everywhere I go people have heard of or know a little something about the Evo. It has done more then the GSX ever did to raise brand awareness. It put Mitsu on the map as far as sports cars are concerned. I really don't see how it could get any bigger. It almost a joke because people wonder what else the company builds that is worth while or are they just a one hit wonder. Every review I read the writer wishes he were driving an Evo instead of the Galant or Endeavor he's forced to review. They need to focus on making the rest of their car's better - even the cheap ones with the base engines that you (and I) don't find particularly exciting. They can't be all about just 30K+ AWD turbo machines. There has to be a basic, but competant FWD ~150hp vanilla model somewhere in there that the masses will be just as excited about as we are over a XI.

 

Just because car enthusiasts love a model doesn't mean that it makes the company money. Sadly at the end of the day, that's what it is all about.

 

Man your so right. Subaru ads are always on talking bout the love and their AWD system. Mitsubishi ads show like once a month its like there trying to degrade themselves idk. STEP IT UP MITSUBISHI

 

i'll have to agree with you on the civic coupe. the 4th gen eclipse's styling didnt help either...

well we didnt get the evo so the GSX and 3000GT had to have been the face of mitsu in america. we now have the evo and yet they are still slow to parlay its pedigree to the rest of the lineup.

its not all doom and gloom. kudos for the outlander GT with its own S-AWC system. kudos to the lancer Ralliart for even existing. and hopefully kudos to a Ralliart version of the outlander sport. is it a real possibility? have you heard anything internally?