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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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That's ok. That will just make ours more rare.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Over the past ten years, there seems to be a virtual split between the engineering and production engineering that comes out of Japan, versus that which comes out of MMNA and what's really "here" out of North America.

One thing that kept the Evo clean and pristine and on a proper development track was I believe was the engineering group out of Japan. I forgot the guys name, but I'm willing to believe that since he was the effective and permanent "Evo project manager" aka Dr. Evo, he was able to keep key engineering players around for longer than just "a model name and run" of the car. That alone brought the Evo from compact car build to sports car build, and believe me, as an engineer there are some def. choices that make the Evo more a sports car with a compact car body, instead of the other way around.

MMNA has frankly been the weak link. As much as they help by getting in the models here to the US, they have been lax in really understanding what Mitsu has to offer from Japan to the US. MMNA and MMJapan (for lack of a better word) are just so different, they seem to battle one another. This is a lot of conjecture, but its just that I'm not disposed to trusting MMNA after all that's gone on for the last 10 years+.

Regardless my hats off for bringing the Evo VIII and XI to the US, and allowing the even better Evo X to grow here also. Hopefully they'll keep the true car enthusiasts in MMNA and be able to work with the market conditions that exist.

and oh ... I really on a compact car level do like the current Lancer. I think its a fine ride.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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and hopefully kudos to a Ralliart version of the outlander sport. is it a real possibility? have you heard anything internally?
No, I don't sell them any more but I am still good friends with one of their regional reps. Next time I talk to him I'll ask him about it. However, I doubt I'll find out anything before they announce it mid November.

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Over the past ten years, there seems to be a virtual split between the engineering and production engineering that comes out of Japan, versus that which comes out of MMNA and what's really "here" out of North America.
I don't think that is MMNA's fault per se, but really MMC's turning over the business to other people. Now the company is back under control of Mitsubishi Heavy, Mitsubishi Corp and Mitsubishi Bank and the MMNA executive is a Japanese national. Before they kind of let Daimler-Chrysler call the shots or majorly influence things at least. Even though Mitsu wasn't officially part of the merger, they were. It seemed like they were going to hand things over to the French in Peugeot, but I'm only speculating. They have taken a whole hands off approach to the US market from the beginning, as all they did was supply powertrains and captive imports to Chrysler.

One thing that kept the Evo clean and pristine and on a proper development track was I believe was the engineering group out of Japan. I forgot the guys name, but I'm willing to believe that since he was the effective and permanent "Evo project manager" aka Dr. Evo, he was able to keep key engineering players around for longer than just "a model name and run" of the car. That alone brought the Evo from compact car build to sports car build, and believe me, as an engineer there are some def. choices that make the Evo more a sports car with a compact car body, instead of the other way around.
Yeah, for sure - if we ever hear about Dr. Evo getting laid off, retiring or leaving the company - we should be worried. He and his team were supposedly allowed to sit in on the Lancer development sessions from the ground up these last two platforms, instead of being handed a finished Mirage a told to make do. I think it shows in the inherent handling, stiffness and solid feel of the regular Lancer and Outlander.

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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I read in another thread that there may not be a 2011 EVO is there any truth to that?
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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No.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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I read in another thread that there may not be a 2011 EVO is there any truth to that?
Seriously...some people don't even try ^^^

All you had to do mate was drive down to your local Mitsu dealer and look at the 2011 Evo SE's that are being delivered now. Or call and ask. Does this thing even work ??
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Those are actually 2010 SE's.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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SE is 2010, but there is 100% sure going to be a 2011 Evo X in the USA.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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i think there will be an evo 11 model year, they just came out with the new platform ....why do that to cancel it?
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by swalltr207jg
i think there will be an evo 11 model year, they just came out with the new platform ....why do that to cancel it?
Well, the platform has been out since 2007, so it is actually towards the end of its life. If Evos aren't selling well enough to make them - then they would stop. The question becomes, how little is too little. We are lucky they can be built right along side their cheaper Lancer and Outlander brethren, but federalizing them and exporting them for only 1500-2500 (in this country) or so units sold might not cover it.

The next Lancer is due in 2013 as it is in a 5 year cycle. We just have to hope Mitsu decides to develop the next Evo along with it. And if they do, then decide to bring it to the US>
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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-Facepalm- this is ridiculous. Just because someone resigns mitsu is going down? come on!!!!!
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Yeah, I'm not losing any sleep over this. Heck, if they discontinue the Evo, used ones will become more valuable like the NSX, Supra, S2000...maybe
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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I highly doubt it will make evos that much more expensive or demanding nsx and supra were a completely different story. Way too expensive at the time and thus less were made.
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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i read in a magazine that they were making the evo xi hybrids, the front electric and back gas. I would never want to work on a hybrid car but for now im just going to keep my 06' for a while.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloudx71
I highly doubt it will make evos that much more expensive or demanding nsx and supra were a completely different story. Way too expensive at the time and thus less were made.
If they were to quit making Evo's I believe that the value of these cars would definitely go up. In the short and long term sense of a car appreciating.
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