Gotta love the irony!!!

 

If you read my post you'll notice that I make no judgments or predictions about the "next Evo". Merely that this next "Evo", whatever it is, will be NOTHING like what people have come to expect from the previously released Evos. For example, a hybrid powered "Evo" can be designed to perform just as well or better than the Evo X, but it ain't gonna be similar starting with the engine.

The original "Evo is dead" report basically said the same thing and THIS last report is saying the same thing. People are treating it like the Evo died and is now resurrected. Mitsubishi is doing EXACTLY what it planned to do all along. A few thousand people whining about it on their Facebook page ain't gonna shift their worldwide plans.

As I mentioned in a different post, Mitsubishi has every right to come out and say "If you motherf_____s liked the Evo so much, why didn't you buy more AND why didn't you buy our other cars? We almost went bankrupt and all you @55holes care about is one f___n car. FFFFFFFFUUUUU!!!"

 

what are you talking about? YOU were the one who said no AYC cars arent evos, not me ayc is nice but it doesnt MAKE an evo, that was my point. also i was wrong about ayc being introduced in evo7, it was evo6 but my point stands regardless.

ok back on topic....

i dont think the evo revolves around any specific piece of hardware, for example people cried about the 4g63, people cried USDM evos didnt come with AYC etc etc etc.... in the end its not a specific tech that makes the evo its the goal in mind, which is a rally car configured for the street. i firmly believe even if mitsu goes 180 and makes the evo into hybrid, it will be a BETTER evo. for example many manufacterer including porsche is looking into it. also dont forget tesla roadster; electric motors have alot of potential in the sportscar market, its not just for mpg.

 

i understand what your sayin. its obvious they would wanna make more money. BUT if the eclipse died in '99 and the evo never came here until '03, thats 4 years they wasted in the states.

i just wanna remind you, Mitsubishi NEVER had any intention to EVER bring the evo to the US. if it wasnt for the WRX we prob would of never had the evo here. when Mitsu saw how fast the WRX blew up here they immediately shipped them over. and remember the WRX was only in the states for 1 year before Mitsu finally wised up. now because you brought up that point ill have to throw this in. Subaru took that chance, they had there 36k STi and they still kept there 23k WRX. they used that for a ''more affordable car". now keep in mind, Mitsu didnt have a "more affordable car" in the 20k price range (performance wise) until 10 years later when they released the Ralliart.

 

I'm not sure I understand or agree with the argument that Mitsu isn't producing more Evos because they were having a hard time selling them. When was the last time you saw an Evo sitting on a lot for months at a time and they had to offer crazy discounts to get rid of it?? If anything, the problem with Evo sales was a lack of production not a lack of buyers. I read two threads just last week where guys had to order their's from the factory because they couldn't find any Evos in their area or at least not ones with the features they wanted. It's not like their's an abundance of Evos just sitting around. Everytime I drive by my local dealer I look for the Evos and I never see any. I see a lot of GTSs and maybe a Ralliart or two but never any Evos.

Ginglingston11's point that didn't bring the Evo over here until after the Sti had success I think proves that doesn't have a very good understanding of what people in the states really want.

 

sure you were wrong , the AYC came in the IV with a new platform vs the Evo 3. The AYC and the ACD is the "Biggest deal" on the Evo's. that is why they stop allowed them to run as a grupe A car... and force them to the WRC /VII platform/ class, with mechanical diffs. And since then they do not doing good in WRC clas , fact they quit. But the Grupe N category still dominated by Evos. thansk to the ACD which is still alowed there.

I m also sure i never said that what you saying above, also. I was responding to your statement.

Also to be a rally car is not about which type of engine you have. The rally is completely different approach of motorsport. Look it up. Based on street cars, not the opposite. You see this one also backwards.
about different engine in rally:
They already running diesel so as hybrid.
Even Citroen C4 WRC car made a hybrid.
I just would like to make sure you know these , before you judge, and dont base your opinion on who know s what.
so back to the topic. LOL

Rob

 

Oh I'm not saying the Evo wasn't a hot seller. I'm saying that Mitsubishi was factually going bankrupt, primarily in the United States. Amidst the economic, climactic and global changes within the automobile industry, Mitsubishi is also pro-actively going "more green" and as a result, the Evo, in its existing form and heritage is going by the wayside. However, there is some validity to the point that had Mitsubishi NOT gone to the brink of death that they would not have been reconsidering their global positioning as well as their production line (ie the Evo in this case).

Subaru just had a record sales month this year and is primed for further, future growth. Hear anything about how the STI is going hybrid? Possibly ending? Ford went to death and back. Is the Mustang gone? What about the Camaro? These are brand name models from brand name manufacturers. Somehow these companies are managing to keep the niche vehicles that their clientele have come to love AND associate with their brand.

What this whole thing seems to boil down to is this: a top Mitsubishi executive decided to talk casually about ending the Evo line, probably against the wishes or unbeknownst to Mitsubishi itself. Hence, they have damage control to play with since the uproar was so massive from the public (that btw, didn't really support the Mitsubishi brand--it just wanted it's Evo). So now they're busy backtracking and most likely planning to slap the Evo name on whatever sporty/hybrid/greener vehicle they were planning all along.

In essence, they're probably saying "Since these bastards like the Evo name so much, we're gonna call whatever we develop next an Evo as well."

It doesn't mean their next sporty car will be bad. It just means they will preserve the name regardless if the next car remotely resembles anything about the Evo, starting with the engine.

 

different engines? group-N? maybe your reading my posts in the mirror and reading it funny.... nevermind your missing my point by a long shot.

 

Here's what doesn't make sense to me- If Mitsu was/is on the brink of bankruptcy and the Evo seems to be the only car selling well for them then why are the threatening to get rid of it? Seems to me that the Evo is not the problem here, it's the rest of their lineup that's the problem. And if their focus is to go more "Green" then that's just fine but that's a pretty lame excuse for threatening to axe the Evo. Just about every auto manufacturer is prodcuing hybrid cars now and going greener, yet that still doesn't stop Ford from making the Mustang, Chevy the Corvette, or Nissan the GTR, Etc.

Perhaps all this is (here comes the conspriacy theory)... Is an attempt by Mitsu to rile up the fanbase and the public in general into putting some more interest their brand. I'm pretty sure I remember Ford pulling a similar tactic about 10 years ago when they talked about axing the Mustang before they completely redesigned it.

 

^Actually, the Camaro died for a while and came back amidst a global recession; even it's parent company received bailout funds from the government to stay alive.

I've heard from a local Mitsubishi dealership owner (and die-hard Evo fan) that Mitsubishi is committed to the Evo. He said the Lancer Evolution may be dead, but the Evolution will live on, probably as a Colt. This isn't a bad thing. Look at how large the Lancer has gotten. To piggyback on my Camaro example, look how big it's gotten!

When Mitsubishi was competitive in the WRC (no doubt another reason for explosive interest during the '90's), they switched from a Galant chassis to the Lancer because it was smaller, lighter and probably much cheaper to sell to the public (for racing homologation).

Considering Mitsu's new green positioning, I think it's safe to say the company won't be racing on the WRC level anytime soon. Still, this is the future of sports cars. Remember life before AYC, ACD, Brembo brakes, front LSDs and MIVEC? Embrace the tech!

 

Id love to see a Colt Evolution!





http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...KpOltwe48sjgDQ

With a 4g63t varient that is couple with an electric motor!

Or looks like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOZ5UpbP3Xw

 

Wow They've already started making the EVO XI!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-VS1Gxt8nw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVc-u9RI4qk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGx_M...eature=related


Make this an Evolution with a price of 20k!

 

Maybe it was the Camaro I was thinking of. Thanks for the correction.

 

It is very possible.
But here some answer:
different engines , because of the topic we are in,and many people not call the next gen. an evo because it will be hybrid. /looks like /
Grupe N because that is a closest class to stock in racing. For the drive train and such.
So you can compere the performance of car to the older versions. Here they run from Evo's 3- X .

These are brought up , as an other view for those who thinks the EVo 9 is the last "TRUE" evo. Mean while the X actually performs better either tarmac or any other loose surface then the older. So the next gen hybrid , if its performs better or a same as the X , will be a TRUE evo. Just as the X is.
Lame opinions like , too much comfort etc. will not judge a race car. Results of racing does.
In the other hand if you compare the every day use , the X still is on top. So i have a fate in the new gen EVos. I might be proven wrong. I still think the Hyrdid idea is not end of the world, as long as performs.

Rob

 

It's best not to give the X haters any more attention then has already been given to them. You aren't going to change their opinion at this point after 4 years of the X proving itself in time attack and WRC Group N.

Haters gonna hate.