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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Just wanted to make sure of this and I know Mitsubishi was going to stop with the Evo X but will there really be an Evo 11 hybrid? Someone said that the CEO of Mitsu came out to announce that the Evo will still continue, so I don't know if he is a moron or is he right? Any thoughts?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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So I know this one thing was going to happen and is supposed to happen but this one guy said something and is that true or is he just not cool?

P.S. I do not know how to use the search function.

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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It's very likely. Mitsu has to deal with CAFE restrictions just like every other manufacturer. While they are better off than many, having a flagship car that barely gets 23 mpg freeway isn't a good thing.

My guess is that they are not going to make a "hybrid" in the current, popular sense. To me, it would make more sense to have an over-sized starter motor that allows the car to completely shut down during stops. Probably similar to the Honda CRZ.

My preference would be to see an all-electric, since, if properly designed, it would out-perform the current generation of EVOs.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladogaboy
It's very likely. Mitsu has to deal with CAFE restrictions just like every other manufacturer. While they are better off than many, having a flagship car that barely gets 23 mpg freeway isn't a good thing.

My guess is that they are not going to make a "hybrid" in the current, popular sense. To me, it would make more sense to have an over-sized starter motor that allows the car to completely shut down during stops. Probably similar to the Honda CRZ.

My preference would be to see an all-electric, since, if properly designed, it would out-perform the current generation of EVOs.
And probably cost three times as much. Electric sports cars don't have the technology to be produced efficiently yet. Look at the tesla roadster for example. It performs about the same as one of our cars with a drop in filter and tune, yet costs 109k for the base model. A hybrid is more realistic than an electric, yet to design a car that will Perform and have low emissions requires a lot of R&D (research and development) costs which the company will not make back without a high price since there is little demand for these cars.

If you don't want to read that ^, to sum it up: Cheap Hybrid Performance Car VERY unlikely.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:09 AM
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And probably cost three times as much. Electric sports cars don't have the technology to be produced efficiently yet. Look at the tesla roadster for example. It performs about the same as one of our cars with a drop in filter and tune, yet costs 109k for the base model. A hybrid is more realistic than an electric, yet to design a car that will Perform and have low emissions requires a lot of R&D (research and development) costs which the company will not make back without a high price since there is little demand for these cars.

If you don't want to read that ^, to sum it up: Cheap Hybrid Performance Car VERY unlikely.

Well Telsa is coming out with the model s or something like that. It's a 4 door sedan and fully electric with evo like performance. I believe the base price on it is going to be somewhere around the low 50's. Once you figure in the tax credit for buying a "hybrid, or electric" you're looking at about 45+ which is basically the price of a new MR.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:40 AM
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tesla can't corner.. check out the top gear episode.. it also runs out of juice sooo fast on the track.. which means if someone ran the **** out of it on the street.. they'd be 5 blocks from home when it ran out of power... then 16 hours to filler back up.. no errends and possibly be late for work the next day..

hydrogen is in my opinion the only way to go. glad i got an x while i did
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:20 AM
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On another site someone suggested that the WRC's decision to go to 1.6 liters and two doors also played a role in Mitsu giving up on Evos. No idea if this is true, however, since, like this post, it was written by some anonymous loser on the internet.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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I hope they keep making the Evo! would be very interesting to see what they make if they don't discontinue the vehicle.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bowrepublik
tesla can't corner.. check out the top gear episode..
I wouldn't count on Top Gear to be completely unbiased. They have a way of making certain cars look bad in order to prove a point.

The ONLY weakness of electric cars in comparison to internal combustion engine (ICE) cars at this point is energy storage. This manifests itself in several ways, but all of those weaknesses are derived from the extra weight and space needed to store the energy to drive the motor. Outside of that, electric cars can share all of the same parts as ICE cars in terms of suspension and chassis. Additionally, they save driveline weight, benefit from superior aerodynamics, and enjoy a number of freedoms that can never be realized by ICE cars.

As was stated earlier: The primary problem is cost. However, if one were to look at the realistic cost of ownership, a $60-70k all-electric EVO would cost significantly less to own over its lifetime than a $35-40k ICE EVO.

Regardless (and this is true for all electric cars), if the energy density of current battery technology were to double (from ~ 1.3 MJ/kg to ~2.6 MJ/kg), electric cars would be as viable as ICE cars. If that energy density were to quadruple (~5.2 MJ/kg), the choice between electric cars and ICE cars would be a no-brainer... even for performance applications. Hell, maybe ESPECIALLY for performance applications.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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i hate electric cars! I hope they do continue to make the evo, great car
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JOshua a
i hate electric cars! I hope they do continue to make the evo, great car
How many electric cars have you driven, and if so, which ones? Many people say that they hate sedans because they are slow and sluggish...
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