I had read from a couple different sources that the weight may be reduced by about 300 lbs or so as well.

And theres no need to be myopic about it, b/c theres nothing to indicate that all this weight would be coming off of the roof.

1) it comes with Bilstein shocks. I know coilovers are a hell of a lot lighter than the stock suspension, wouldn't be surprised if the MR Bilsteins were the same way

2) it comes with lighter weight BBS wheels

3) it may completely eliminate all the sound deadening

4) it may be comparing a non-sunroofed MR to a sunroofed EVO, just like the weight comparisons in the advertisements for the RS when it first came out.

5) then, you add the weight saved by the roof, and its possible to get around 300 lbs of weight saved.

 

That's what I'm trying to say. If the MR takes away everything the RS does, how does ACD, ABS, and some little electronics add up from 27k base price to 35k+. So I'm trying to interpret the idea that I don't think the MR takes away the things or the amount of weight that the RS does.

That wasn't really the point of my post up there. I'm mainly saying that I don't think the MR is supposed to save a whole bunch of weight. That's the RS's job.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1254

here ya go, i knew i saw it somewhere.. and its r&t, reputable.

 

Oh well. I'm not really trying to argue or anything. I just thought I've read that weight savings aren't that much.

And by saying that the aluminum roof saves 300 pounds with the rolleyes symbol, I meant sarcasm towards the fact that it doesn't save THAT much weight. And that I also wouldn't credit 300 pounds of weight reduction only to the aluminum roof. I'm simply saying that even with adding in the aluminum roof, lighter rims, etc, that I really didn't think the MR shaved 300 pounds.

I'm not sure if that made much sense. Oh well.

EDIT: This post was in reference to quote from alex alex's post.

 

Hmmm. Maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell. I've seen plenty different numbers from different sources, so I'm not sure.

 

From the MR spec sheet on the main page:

Aluminum roof panel on RS and MR saves 6 pounds.

 

rs doesnt have an aluminum roof..? they shaved weight everywhere else for the rs

 

I think it adds up pretty easily. Considering that a regular evo is 30, and the new price by 2005 will probably be around 31,500 or so . . . If the MR is 34,000, thats 2,500 extra for a 6-speed transmission, ACD, more power, and less weight.

Not too bad

 

According to the "official specs sheet" it does. But then again, I believe this spec sheet covers all 05 models. So I'm assuming it's the '04 RS that doesn't have the aluminum roof. Regardless, it says the weight saving is 6 pounds with the aluminum roof.

 

In my post I was thinking of the price of the MR to be higher than 34,000. With the price being 34,000 that does add up well. And also, I was thinking of the difference between the RS and MR, not the regular and the MR.

I just want to know the MSRP of the MR. Nothing official has been released by Mitsu and magazines are speculating with up to 4k differences from magazine to magazine. I think 34,000 sounds like a good price.

EDIT: ACD is also standard to all 05 models.

 

I think they save up most of the weight in the aluminum bars in the doors.
Current cars have steel bars.
And that makes me wonder how good the MR will be on side impact since alu material crushes on impact while steel bends making it much better in crash situations.

 

In Japan. Here they will be heavier and weighed differently. The Al roof panel saves 8 lbs. The entire roof panel in steel weighs 25 lbs max. The weight savings of a VIII compared to a MR is 22 lbs in Japan. The JDM VIII already has the 6-speed and ACD too.

 

Any pictures of the article?

 

That 300lb weight loss is the misprint. Think about it guys - how the hell are you going to lose 300lbs off of a car like this? Are you all nuts?

The curb weight R&T quoted is the Japanese "dry" curb weight - no gas, no fluids, etc. The US curb weight is "wet", full tank, fluids, etc. That can easily push curb weight over 100lbs.

Erikgj is right - the savings are probably closer to 30lbs, definitely under 50. The RS is the only car that will actually have huge weight savings over the normal VIII.

 

MR door reinforcements are designed with same structural strength and protection...just designed out of larger aluminum to save weight.

There will be no SAYC on the US version; yes, we get the ACD.

No, it's not 300 lbs lighter...30 lbs sounds about right...maybe more but not a whole lot more (unless you had a sunroof on the Evo VIII, in which case, losing the sunroof saves an additional amount of weight.)

The improved skid pad numbers quoted by R&T seem dubious...0.88 to 0.98 ?!? I'm really hoping ACD can do that, and no doubt the lower center-of-gravity helps too...but an almost 12% increase in lateral g's is hard to believe.

MSRP numbers haven't been released. Guesses around 34K are as accurate as it'll get until they are, but I'm betting it'll be just under 35K.