An MR RS isn't even going to have a weight saving of 300lbs, atmost it will have a 220lbs weight saving.

 

We aren't getting the MR RS, just the JDM spec GSR. We have a normal RS and Mitsu doesn't want to spend more for another RS.

 

AS this progress and until we start getting some certified measured weights, I'm wondering, since I can't get a sunroof and cruise in an MR for a weekend toy, a 6 speed RS might be more worthwhile as a track toy that can still (but with out the convenience of power windows and locks ) handle a dinner date after track sessions.

Argh still not getting the best options. MR needs sunroof and cruise option and RS needs 6 speed option. If both those were available, then the decision woudl be really difficult, but either way a real winner. If they threw in SMT on both, I might purchase both and replace my current daily driver with the MR.

 

Also on the SCC article ( Pg 39, August 2004 ) They mention *NEW* Yokohama Advan Tires? Also revised front spoiler?

They seem to believe the dark tailights and headlights are coming. I hope that is true.

 

I can tell you for fact that if there is in fact that much weight savings with the MR...that it isn't coming from the roof. The steel roof doesn't even come close to weighing that much in the first place (300 lbs). How do I know...I work in a mits parts dept. I have had to order a roof before, and they are not 300 lbs.

I think it will have to compete with the current STI more than anything. I may be wrong on this though. But, if the current STI comes with the 6 speed, ACD, and forged wheels. I can't see this being too much above the current STI or people will maybe sway towards the STI. I know, I know the MR has the suspension, roof, and a few other perks...but it can't be enought to seperate itself from the STI by 2-3 grand in price. Again this is just my educated guess and opinion on this...don't take it for fact.

Now if mits brought the FQ series here I could see paying around 35-40K. But not for the a plain MR. My guess, along with Speed Magazine(not that I trust that magazine a whole lot), is 33-34k.

 

You guys kill me...hasn't anyone bothered to look on the Mistucars.com page?

Straight from the horses mouth, the RS is 3175 lbs. and the '04 is 3263 lbs without S&S package. Hmmm...let's do the math, looks like a total weight savings of 88 lbs!

Oh yea...here's the link http://www.mitsucars.com/MMSA/jsp/la...jsp?t=exterior

 

In all honesty, minus the bbs wheels, alum. roof, and alum door reinforcements, it is possible that mitsubishi could have replaced other steel parts, unknowned to us, with high strength aluminum. But again, with the addition of the 6-speed tranny, acd, poss. the s-ayc and whatever other weight adders the US version will have, significant weight savings over the current model seem unlikely. Dealer lists '04 evo curb weight (lbs) 3,263 while R&T lists Jap spec MR curb weight (lbs) 3085. Truth is we'll all have to wait and see.

In march '05, I will be at the mitsu dealer test driving the '04 evo, '05 evo, and '05 evo MR assuming they're still available by then. They always have left over evos at the dealers around here, as of last week , there were 3 new evo 8 '03's in stock that they were desperately trying to get rid of for 27,999. SO if figure if there isnt a dramatic difference in the way the 3 cars feel, i'll just go with the marked down '04, assuming its still in stock. Supposedly, the MR will be out in September '04 so i figure by March '05, any problems with the car will have already arrised and have been solved and also by that time, there will be sufficient tuning options available. This is going to be my secondary/joy car and i am not to picky with the nitty gritty minor performance increases. So if there is a significant difference in the MR's feel, i will buy that one. I just want a fast joy car that handles and brakes well. The Evo is that car. "Fast car, very fast. Maybe too fast for me, heh heh heh."

Ps. sorry for writing a chapter.

 

300lbs!!!!
A source in Japan told me that Mitsubishi have been secretly testing a new device which to hope to install in the US MR. It's known in the engineering section as A.G.D., or Anti Gravity Device, and it will be part of a performance package with the new F.C., or flux capacitor as it is known in the trade. The MR is supposed to weigh in at -2kg at sea level, and the FC brings it from 0->warp speed at the speed of light.

 

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300lbs!!!!
A source in Japan told me that Mitsubishi have been secretly testing a new device which to hope to install in the US MR. It's known in the engineering section as A.G.D., or Anti Gravity Device, and it will be part of a performance package with the new F.C., or flux capacitor as it is known in the trade. The MR is supposed to weigh in at -2kg at sea level, and the FC brings it from 0->warp speed at the speed of light. [QUOTE]



I was waiting for some comedy on this thread.

 

Funny...although warp speed is faster than light...(I know, who cares)

I just read the article in SCC and it states that the MR is 30 lbs lighter, not 300. Also that it will "probly" retail for under 34K and "might" be available with AYC.

 

It does not say "probly". It says "Mitsu also packs its Active Yaw Control (Super AYC) system into the MR ..."

I think the SCC folks as usual are a little more optimisitic than factually relaying and details from official sources.

 

Do people just gloss over my explanation of wet and dry curb weights, or what?

 

the aluimum roof only saves around 10lbs. the jdm mr is just 10kgs lighter than a fully loaded evo 8 gsr (jdm).

 

anyone thinks that a mr will weight 300lbs less than a standard evo is probably mentally challenged.

 

IMHO, the one thing that really interests me about the MR, speaking as a current Evo owner of course, is the "new" turbo (is it the Ti one found on the Evo6 TME?) and the Bilsteins. Does it also come with a new wastegate as well? Those would be interesting possible upgrades.

Too bad the Bilsteins cost about as much as a set of fully adjustable coilovers...