Mister2zx3

The MR weighs 13 pounds more than than the 03 Evo? wow.

Jovani

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Anyone else notice in the engine pic it looks like we're not getting the MR aluminum BOV but the regular plastic one.

The Bear

Ah.. Well thanks for sharing the info. Barnes & Nobles probably had it in the back but didn't offer to go get me a copy, they had no Motor Trend on the shelves.. I'll just have to wait a bit to go pick it up..

I'm kind of surprised at the weight, must be the ACD and 6 spd. I wonder what the 05 GSRs will weigh.

I'm guessing there is still no official info on MSRP as well?

cmf

Not exactly. The 2005 Sti has two systems: one for braking and one for the center diff. The ABS has a "lateral G sensor" that helps account for over/understeer when braking (i.e., out-of-control situations). The STi also now has a "yaw rate sensor" that ties into the center diff to re-route power fore and aft depending on what the car is doing. So, in a nutshell, the STi has loads more "active" crap going on that the USDM Evos do, since none of them comes with Mitsu's SAYC that other regions get standard.

EVIL MR

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also only the MR gets HID light as stander all other evo dose not

cmf

I bet the MR ends up weighing more than the GSR, since the weight gained from the 6-speed and all that extra MR badging will be more than what's saved through the aluminum roof. Of course, the weight from the tranny is down low and the roof is up high, so despite it being heavier, it's probably distributed better than the GSR. Just a guess.

No surprise on MT picking the Evo. They love the car and would probably pick it even if it didn't win any of the performance specs just because the seats are so awesome.

EVIL MR

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no the MR IS 157 pound lighter then 2005 evo

cmf

So now the GSR weighs 3430 lbs?? How is that possible???????? That's like 140 lbs. MORE than the STi! That doesn't seem right.

MisterSpoot

I don't have the '03 official numbers, however...

2004 Evolution VIII RS .................. 3175 (source: Mitsubishi Motors)
2004 Evolution VIII ....................... 3263 (source: Mitsubishi Motors)
2005 Evolution VIII MR Edition ....... 3273 (source: Motor Trend)
2004 Evolution VIII w/ sunroof ..... 3321 (source: Mitsubishi Motors)

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Getting the '05 MR down to the '04 RS's weight is trivial.

The Bear

I think it was Motor Trend who got exactly 3263 with both the STI and Evo last time around as well, so the numbers are probably right on. I'm surprised with how much the ACD must weigh.

MisterSpoot

Curb weight of the '03 Evolution VIII was also 3263 lbs.

4ce fed

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Motor Trend estimates the MSRP to be $34,900 for the MR. Due to the ECU mapping and more torque over a wide area, there is far less turbo lag than current Evos. Weird, though. It gains 5 HP from a bigger exhaust housing, but the boost is also upped to 20.3 psi.? Seems like it should be more than 5 HP.

It should be noted, though, that the only reason the MR tied the 0-60 times is because the STi tops out at 58mph in 2nd gear, so a shift to 3rd was necessary. The MR hit 60 in 2nd gear.

The MR has some built-in 2 stage rev limiter. Any time the clutch is pressed in, the limiter drops to 5K rpms. So that might hurt drag racing, depending on how the driver launches. I don't see it as a down side, though, since the MR isn't really a drag car. It might be good for a no-lift-to-shift feature.

Although the MR beat the STi in every test they did, they said the STi was much easier (and fun, in some cases) to drive. They also said the STI seemed a good bit slower than previous STi's they've tested. The MR put down 239 HP, whle the STI put down 233 HP.

modvp

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How do the handling (of both cars) compare?

4ce fed

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The MR lapped Willow Springs at 1:34.38. The STi at 1:35.37.

600ft slalom, MR 70.1mph, STi 69.7

skidpad, MR .92, STi .90

cmf

So we're STILL waiting for an accurate head-to-head comparison???