not every one is a good tuner as you. which has a big part in it all.

 

IMO I don't think it's the product they're giving up on. With almost 20 months having gone by since the last update, it would seem the people that gave up were turboxs. I love the utec, I love the simple interface of it, I love that I don't have to run windows to use it, I love that my car can be OBDII complaint with it. BUT! It's hard to sit by and watch as other vendors support their products, develop new functionality, and fix bugs in a timely fashion When all we've as utec users have heard is "oh it's coming".

 

I guess I see it different than most, what I see is a list of feature requests that people had made.. The functionality we have is overall very good. Most other vendors are scrambling to offer updates to fix problems they are having, but while their fixing problems their releasing new features. There really aren't any bugs that affect the reliability of the UTEC, only a few features that are quirky.

Its a shame that its taking this long to get updates to the firmware, but what we're expecting is new functionality, and not bug fixes.

In the 20 months since the last update, I've tried a few different turbos, put cams in my car, passed inspections, ran a few 11 second times, driven the car almost 30000 miles (I have 40k on the car) and not broken down once..

I can't defend the fact that its taking a long time for the new firmware to be released.. but as far as I see it, I have been able to work with the UTEC and gotten the results I want with the tools provided. You really can't ask for more.

I don't think speed density is really all that worthwhile, so its not a feature I'm looking forward to. Idle control features and other controls to lock/alter the maf frequency at idle, etc would be nice, since it would make for a rock solid idle.. I can see improvements are needed in some features, but I can't in good conscience complain about its functionality or reliability that I would feel the need to demand a firmware upgrade, or give up on it.

The only few features I thought were nifty and worthwhile are the possibility of using a map for the solenoid output to control water injection, and a true two stage rev limiter (launch control and flat shift limits being seperate) I'd also like to see the ability to see what the duty of the injectors is, instead of an offset from an embedded map.. And some settings to adjust for injector dead time and compensation at idle (which would allow for much larger injectors)

But those are things that I can easily do with what I already have on the car.. I have a blowthrough MAF that has a baseline MAF setting so I can control the idle hz, injector scaling, and the MAF curve. I have the ability to use a third party launch control module, etc.. Yes, all these things cost a bit of money, but what it comes down to is I've tailored what I have to what I need, and I have no complaints in doing it.

Unfortunately, out of sight, out of mind.. Because there are no updates for the firmware, people are perceiving it as being forgotten about.. where my view is, the product works well, and didn't need revision to fix things.. New features almost always take longer than bug fixes to get out.

 

Indeed, I know it's going to take awhile but it's going to be worth it. Everyone is just too impatient and wants to get rid of their MAF.

 

Thanks for the compliment, but its not about being a good tuner, its taking the time to understand how some of this stuff works, and working with it. You don't need to be a good tuner to get a good idle, just need to understand the relationship of what your adjusting and how it affects things.. Or you can work with a tuner to set this stuff up and go from there.

I have even heard from tuners who won't use the UTEC.. Honestly, most tools are similar in how they function, and I'd be reluctant to work with any tuner who cannot work with a particular tool. I personally find that many of them are really only interested in selling you something, so if they can turn you off to something they don't sell, they can sell you what they have.

I have always made a point of being openminded about different engine management tools.. and if someone asked me to tune an Xede, I'd do my research and learn about how it works, then give them a hand.. Same with an AEM EMS, or any other standalone.. But I would never discourage someone from the tool, I'd just learn how to work with it, even if it took me longer (it would never cost them more) but then again, I'm not out there to make money..

 

You know whats really funny, if you had the ability to lock your idle frequency, you would rarely have problems with the MAF.. Most problems are due to the signal getting disrupted at low rpm or idle, and reading inappropriately.. I have a video of my car idling with a blowthrough MAF, if there was the ability to lock the frequency at idle, it would be just as stable with the stock maf.

This is just the nature of having a very accurate (and sensitive) instrument for measuring airflow.. And in reality, speed density would have similar problems as idle vacuum would surge up and down..

the HKS EIDS was designed to be a signal buffer in an attempt to compensate for these signal problems, only they missed the mark slightly and ended up with something thats not quite right.

 

*clap*

 

Moooooo.

 

i think they are mad, becasue people been like stealing them utecs and sending them back in for new ones lol. people stop ripping off people.

 

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Anyone hear any news on the software update? Just doing my semi-monthly check-in...

Thanks,
Adam

 

That sentence doesn't make any sense?

 

im going to vomit!

 

Come on guys, get on your software boys and get this ball rolling!!!

 

I want to revise my original estimate of 9/2006 to 7/2007.