OFFICIAL VIPEC THREAD - V44 PnP & V88 Thread
Hey, I am slightly confused by the trigger calibration procedure. Im following the manual: It says to verify with a timing light. That step is before it ever says to crank the engine over for the first time. I just dont want to cause something irreversable. What is the cliff notes for the order of things I need to do? /noob
After performing all set-up instructions given in previous sections, including trigger calibration, the engine is now ready to be started. The following procedure should be used for first time start-up: this statement is what throws me off here..
1. Turn the ignition key OFF then ON. The fuel pump should prime momentarily upon power up.
2. Connect the ECU to Vi-PEC Tuning Software Tuning Software.
3. Click on each of the runtime value tabs (located about two thirds of the way down the screen) and check that all values are as expected. Where possible operate sensors (e.g. TPS) to ensure correct readings are displayed. The following values should be checked:
a. TPS – spans from 0 to 100% when throttle is pressed. If not, perform a TPS Calibration.
b. MAP – should read approx 101 kPa (at sea level) with the engine not running. If not, check the MAP Sensor Type setting and perform a MAP Calibration.
c. ECT – should read current engine temperature.
d. IAT – should read current intake air temperature.
e. Digital Inputs – Operate switches connected to any digital inputs while watching the runtime value to ensure they operate as expected.
4. Rectify any faults found in Step 3.
5. Click on the ‘Fuel’ heading, then ‘Fuel Set-up’:
a. Locate the ‘Master’ setting. This will need to be adjusted during or just after start-up.
6. Crank the engine until it starts. Some throttle may be required for first time start-up due to imperfect tuning. If necessary adjust the Master setting to enrich/lean the engine (increase to enrich).
7. If the engine fails to start after several attempts, do not crank it endlessly. Stop and determine the problem before continuing.
8. Check the Trigger Error Counter (found under the Triggers runtime values tab). If this value increases during cranking/running then there is a trigger setup fault. It is not unusual for this number to count one or two on the first engine revolution.
9. Once the engine starts, adjust the ‘Master’ setting to achieve best possible running.
10. The engine should now be allowed to fully warm up. It may be necessary to readjust ‘Master’ several times to maintain smooth running. Don’t forget to keep an eye on engine temperature.
11. Once the engine is warmed up and running well, perform another trigger calibration (known “as setting the base timing”).
12. Perform a Store by pressing F4.
am I over thinking this? Just try to start it and then correct the errors down the list like it says?
1. Turn the ignition key OFF then ON. The fuel pump should prime momentarily upon power up.
2. Connect the ECU to Vi-PEC Tuning Software Tuning Software.
3. Click on each of the runtime value tabs (located about two thirds of the way down the screen) and check that all values are as expected. Where possible operate sensors (e.g. TPS) to ensure correct readings are displayed. The following values should be checked:
a. TPS – spans from 0 to 100% when throttle is pressed. If not, perform a TPS Calibration.
b. MAP – should read approx 101 kPa (at sea level) with the engine not running. If not, check the MAP Sensor Type setting and perform a MAP Calibration.
c. ECT – should read current engine temperature.
d. IAT – should read current intake air temperature.
e. Digital Inputs – Operate switches connected to any digital inputs while watching the runtime value to ensure they operate as expected.
4. Rectify any faults found in Step 3.
5. Click on the ‘Fuel’ heading, then ‘Fuel Set-up’:
a. Locate the ‘Master’ setting. This will need to be adjusted during or just after start-up.
6. Crank the engine until it starts. Some throttle may be required for first time start-up due to imperfect tuning. If necessary adjust the Master setting to enrich/lean the engine (increase to enrich).
7. If the engine fails to start after several attempts, do not crank it endlessly. Stop and determine the problem before continuing.
8. Check the Trigger Error Counter (found under the Triggers runtime values tab). If this value increases during cranking/running then there is a trigger setup fault. It is not unusual for this number to count one or two on the first engine revolution.
9. Once the engine starts, adjust the ‘Master’ setting to achieve best possible running.
10. The engine should now be allowed to fully warm up. It may be necessary to readjust ‘Master’ several times to maintain smooth running. Don’t forget to keep an eye on engine temperature.
11. Once the engine is warmed up and running well, perform another trigger calibration (known “as setting the base timing”).
12. Perform a Store by pressing F4.
am I over thinking this? Just try to start it and then correct the errors down the list like it says?
After performing all set-up instructions given in previous sections, including trigger calibration, the engine is now ready to be started. The following procedure should be used for first time start-up: this statement is what throws me off here..
1. Turn the ignition key OFF then ON. The fuel pump should prime momentarily upon power up.
2. Connect the ECU to Vi-PEC Tuning Software Tuning Software.
3. Click on each of the runtime value tabs (located about two thirds of the way down the screen) and check that all values are as expected. Where possible operate sensors (e.g. TPS) to ensure correct readings are displayed. The following values should be checked:
a. TPS – spans from 0 to 100% when throttle is pressed. If not, perform a TPS Calibration.
b. MAP – should read approx 101 kPa (at sea level) with the engine not running. If not, check the MAP Sensor Type setting and perform a MAP Calibration.
c. ECT – should read current engine temperature.
d. IAT – should read current intake air temperature.
e. Digital Inputs – Operate switches connected to any digital inputs while watching the runtime value to ensure they operate as expected.
4. Rectify any faults found in Step 3.
5. Click on the ‘Fuel’ heading, then ‘Fuel Set-up’:
a. Locate the ‘Master’ setting. This will need to be adjusted during or just after start-up.
6. Crank the engine until it starts. Some throttle may be required for first time start-up due to imperfect tuning. If necessary adjust the Master setting to enrich/lean the engine (increase to enrich).
7. If the engine fails to start after several attempts, do not crank it endlessly. Stop and determine the problem before continuing.
8. Check the Trigger Error Counter (found under the Triggers runtime values tab). If this value increases during cranking/running then there is a trigger setup fault. It is not unusual for this number to count one or two on the first engine revolution.
9. Once the engine starts, adjust the ‘Master’ setting to achieve best possible running.
10. The engine should now be allowed to fully warm up. It may be necessary to readjust ‘Master’ several times to maintain smooth running. Don’t forget to keep an eye on engine temperature.
11. Once the engine is warmed up and running well, perform another trigger calibration (known “as setting the base timing”).
12. Perform a Store by pressing F4.
am I over thinking this? Just try to start it and then correct the errors down the list like it says?
1. Turn the ignition key OFF then ON. The fuel pump should prime momentarily upon power up.
2. Connect the ECU to Vi-PEC Tuning Software Tuning Software.
3. Click on each of the runtime value tabs (located about two thirds of the way down the screen) and check that all values are as expected. Where possible operate sensors (e.g. TPS) to ensure correct readings are displayed. The following values should be checked:
a. TPS – spans from 0 to 100% when throttle is pressed. If not, perform a TPS Calibration.
b. MAP – should read approx 101 kPa (at sea level) with the engine not running. If not, check the MAP Sensor Type setting and perform a MAP Calibration.
c. ECT – should read current engine temperature.
d. IAT – should read current intake air temperature.
e. Digital Inputs – Operate switches connected to any digital inputs while watching the runtime value to ensure they operate as expected.
4. Rectify any faults found in Step 3.
5. Click on the ‘Fuel’ heading, then ‘Fuel Set-up’:
a. Locate the ‘Master’ setting. This will need to be adjusted during or just after start-up.
6. Crank the engine until it starts. Some throttle may be required for first time start-up due to imperfect tuning. If necessary adjust the Master setting to enrich/lean the engine (increase to enrich).
7. If the engine fails to start after several attempts, do not crank it endlessly. Stop and determine the problem before continuing.
8. Check the Trigger Error Counter (found under the Triggers runtime values tab). If this value increases during cranking/running then there is a trigger setup fault. It is not unusual for this number to count one or two on the first engine revolution.
9. Once the engine starts, adjust the ‘Master’ setting to achieve best possible running.
10. The engine should now be allowed to fully warm up. It may be necessary to readjust ‘Master’ several times to maintain smooth running. Don’t forget to keep an eye on engine temperature.
11. Once the engine is warmed up and running well, perform another trigger calibration (known “as setting the base timing”).
12. Perform a Store by pressing F4.
am I over thinking this? Just try to start it and then correct the errors down the list like it says?
Fired right up!
Fault code 20 and 22.
Thing is my wideband reads well??! And my power steering switch appears to be fine. The switch ill flip to high an try that.. The wideband I'm lost on. It's wired into my factory narrow band wire and it's reading in run time values.
I tried enabling cll wbo2 stoich and it doesn't work.
Also I put the jumper on the board to run the inboard map sensor but it appears to be using my omni.
Some quirks but it drives!
Really happy though
Re reading the vipec manual i see: CLL is for trimming already tuned cells. So I must first tune the cells(automatically would be my best bet) for idle cruise and so on. So that takes care of that function
Ok, so it looks like Im getting the ERROR for the wideband because the Fuel table is veery rich idling arouind 10-10.2/3. see above for plan there..
PS switch... I think that needs to be toggled to on Level High. Then again, it clearly says its over the value for one second.
as a note i unplugged the PS switch and still got the error. as well as turning the off in the ECU settings.
Fault code 20 and 22.
Thing is my wideband reads well??! And my power steering switch appears to be fine. The switch ill flip to high an try that.. The wideband I'm lost on. It's wired into my factory narrow band wire and it's reading in run time values.
I tried enabling cll wbo2 stoich and it doesn't work.
Also I put the jumper on the board to run the inboard map sensor but it appears to be using my omni.
Some quirks but it drives!
Really happy though
Re reading the vipec manual i see: CLL is for trimming already tuned cells. So I must first tune the cells(automatically would be my best bet) for idle cruise and so on. So that takes care of that function
Ok, so it looks like Im getting the ERROR for the wideband because the Fuel table is veery rich idling arouind 10-10.2/3. see above for plan there..
PS switch... I think that needs to be toggled to on Level High. Then again, it clearly says its over the value for one second.
as a note i unplugged the PS switch and still got the error. as well as turning the off in the ECU settings.
Last edited by 211Ratsbud; Jan 16, 2014 at 05:19 PM. Reason: edit
Yup no error code now . The iscv did seem to have no effect once warmed up no matter how many steps were adjusted .. More learning but I'm loving the interface and live adjustment
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From: Redmond Washington
I did call AEM sales, they have discontinued the EMS for my car (1g DSM). How 'bout that. So I am more interested in vipec than ever.
I've been reading the manual but haven't started playing with the software yet. Hoping for one thing that the way logs are presented is much nicer than with AEM. I did play with AEM logs enough to think that the way the EMS presents a log sucks, compared to what I am used to which is ecu+ silver box.
So, thanks for the comment that you like the interface, and thanks for all other observations.
For sure man.
You can use a Evo 3 pnp I think which is v44 based still while the newer pnp's have a v88 top board .
I'm in the learning curve still but minutes had a driveable car from the basemap.
You can use a Evo 3 pnp I think which is v44 based still while the newer pnp's have a v88 top board .
I'm in the learning curve still but minutes had a driveable car from the basemap.
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 491
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From: Redmond Washington
The basemap? Does vipec supply a basemap for evo 9?
Or did you get a basemap from another user?
I would most likely get a new one of their universal type units (i series) rather than the evo III pnp.
Or did you get a basemap from another user?
I would most likely get a new one of their universal type units (i series) rather than the evo III pnp.
Last edited by Talonboost; Jan 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM.