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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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I am waiting for a direct bolt on super like those available for the toyotas. I had one on my dads 4runner and was great
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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I know nobody around here wants to wait but wont we all be able to get the same warranty-covered Evo X turbo kit on any of our lancers once it goes production?
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by proverb
I know nobody around here wants to wait but wont we all be able to get the same warranty-covered Evo X turbo kit on any of our lancers once it goes production?
Words cannot express how much I doubt this to be true. doesn't really seem to do cool stuff like that.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by proverb
I know nobody around here wants to wait but wont we all be able to get the same warranty-covered Evo X turbo kit on any of our lancers once it goes production?

seeing that the production lancer engine isn't OEM engineered to see boost.. basically NO

the closest you might get is some specific dealers doing swap overs of the turbo coming in the turbo fwd version of the lancer. even then you'll have to pay for the OEM labor, OEM parts etc etc. and I'll bet if something like that DOES happen the warranty for it will be for parts only... not an engine failure.


basically... don't count on it
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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It would be cool if they did that , its what I had planned but I dont think they will have to wait and see.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Having both really isn't necessary...get a T67 in there and call it a day!
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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ummm this thread wasn't about twin charging... it was about either option comming available

but on that note.. twin charging is a great idea.. think about it.. a roots type s/c for your low and mid power for while your large turbo is winding up. but it will also HELP wind up the larger turbo

.. the only problem is... it takes up ALOT of room.. and well.. it's almost twice as expensive
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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and for those who dont have to much $$$ its hard to do....
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabidhamster
seeing that the production lancer engine isn't OEM engineered to see boost.. basically NO
What are u talking about???? This engine is made for boost, the only thing I see to be a problem for running high boost is the compression ratio, if it is indeed 10:1 then the pistons would have to go to run anything over 6psi(same problem with the 3rd gen eclipse GTS, the 4cylinder was perfect super strong) but ya this engine was made for boost.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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anyone know anywhere to get custom turbo manifold in southern cali. I have a friend how owns a shop and does turbo installs allday long on rx7's civics etc. but I need a manifold and he'll set me up with turbo. Just looking for someone to do my manifold.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by angryGTS
What are u talking about???? This engine is made for boost, the only thing I see to be a problem for running high boost is the compression ratio, if it is indeed 10:1 then the pistons would have to go to run anything over 6psi(same problem with the 3rd gen eclipse GTS, the 4cylinder was perfect super strong) but ya this engine was made for boost.
How do you know that? We don't necessarily know that our 4B11 is the same as the Evo or SRT-4 versions.

But I hope you're right.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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okay... first off Psi doesn't mean a damn thing, it's merely a reference used for control. just saying 6psi is that from a T2.. or a T101? the psi is just how hard the turbo is forcing air against your intake/head ports/valves etc. not the actual pressure it's putting air into the combustion chambers.

the general rule for planning and turbo sizing .. an optimally sized turbo to the engine say a mid to large T3 for a 2.0L .. around 4psi as a reference adds a compression point to the static compression. pump gas alone usually stops doing it's job around 12.5:1 'total' compression. so optimally sized you could probably get around 10psi into the 4B11

now ofcourse theres ALOT of factors that work with and against that. what are the chances the crank and rods are the same used in the FI versions of the engine? pretty good actually, they would save more money making only 1 version of the crank and rods then they would making new versions with weaker alloys/methods. Theres also a VERY good chance that the pistons are forged too

however on all that info.. the engine is still not made for boost, the cams, head design, piston design etc etc are made for NA operation, even with the chances that it is insanely strong.

now all that aside. don't get me wrong, I wanna see people boost the crap outta it. my whole background is doing things people told me I couldn't, drag racing 88 tercel, autoX 86 camry, road rally in a delta88. I had a turbo'd and engine swapped 80 accord with a 87 prelude engine still on the carbs back in 97, beside it sat a 72 chev lifted 2wd with a turbo'd 292 I6 again still with a carb.

I wanna see people do it, just knowledge is power as it were
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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^ added note, the cylinders are sleeved, which leads me to believe that maybe it is boost capable or maybe its not, but either way is preparing this engine for some abuse
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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I agree its the same in the evo all the did was change a cuple things when we know what they changed we can do the same to ours.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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anything is boost capable.. it's just how much
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