if you're going to spend this much money for turbo and hp why go so small. i figured if you're going to do something might as well go big

 

hmmm correct me if i'm wrong. smaller turbo has less turbo lag, spools quickly, but puts a lot of stress on the engine depending on the PSI

bigger turbo has more turbo lag, but gives you bigger boost, bigger PSI setup, and less stress on the engine.

btw 215hp on a lancer is pretty decent or might a say safe. i'm not saying it's bad to go big but, if u'r ballin' like omar then go for it lol

 

Lol 215 hp isn't small for the 4G94, it's basically doubling the stock HP (imagine a 500 hp evo). As I said, 400 hp is an extremely lofty goal, I don't know of a single lancer that has done it including those built by lancer specialty shops. You're not driving a Honda Integra or a Nissan 240SX, you're driving a car that was designed for fuel economy, nothing more. Moreover, you're car is FWD, there's a reason why the Mazdaspeed3 limits the torque in the first two gears. Wheelspin might impress junior high girls but it doesn't make for a fast or fun car.

 

OK, we all know for easy power to go with a motor swap (aside from the difficulty and price of the actual swap). To answer the question(s), RRM used to use T25 and T28s, but I think found that the 16G performed better. Most poeple say 400hp isn't doable on a lancer, mainly because once you hit that power, the powerband isn't really useful. A turbo producing that power wouldn't really spool up till high up in the RPMs. You would get a lot of wheel spin from that much power, and need upgraded axles and other tranny parts. RRMs lancer made 300hp, but omarboy's made 308. Thats the highest recorded number we have. RRM claims to have a customer that claims to have 370hp but no dyno slip to prove it, nor the actual person on here backing it up. I don't think you'd be able to use 400hp in a lancer, but if you want it, go for it. I'd love to see it someday. Just be prepared to shell out the cash.

And the t3/t4 can put out 400hp no problem. IT would put a lot of strain on a 16G but I think it's doable.

 

No. Smaller turbos do generally show decreased lag and faster spool up time because the wheels in the compressor are smaller and thus require less energy to get going (this is reflected by a lower trim and AR number). A larger turbo will require more energy to spin and will thus spool slower and show more lag (reflected by a higher trim and AR number). Smaller turbos do not stress the motor more than a big turbo, what stresses the motor is the combination of PSI and air volume which leads to spikes in torque.

 

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ok. i guess 400hp on the sohc isnt really realistic. i guess i will shoot for 300-350 range. dont get me wrong, 215 on our lancers are huge gains. it just isnt enough for me at what 5-7psi that most lancer entusiasts are getting. i just want to do something different thats all. i guess if i want huge gains that im talking about, i might as well just purchase the evolution. just sucks because i already paid the car off and its still under my dads name so i dont think he wants me to get rid of it. he figures its just one less bill i have to pay which is true and now that im engaged i have another person to take care of. for right now i think im going with the t3/t4 hybrid. just have to do more research as to which one will fit. but thanks again

 

Uhhh......to get above 200 hp you'll need more than 7 PSI, try 10-12.

 

If your dad owns it still, like mine, I think he'd much rather you build a setup like this on something more suitable than ruin the engine on a paid off lancer. Mid 200s is nice on a lancer. Once you get above 300, you'll be putting a lot of strain on the engine and transmission and everything else related to it. When my dad found out what I wanted to do to my Lancer, he said he should have just bought me a cheap used car that I could mess with and if I destroyed it, he wouldn't be out too much money.

 

Agree with Drucea, one of the big things I learned with my lancer is don't heavily mod a car you can't leave sitting for weeks/months when something inevitably blows up. With a 400 hp lancer, something will blow up.

 

turbo is not the only way to achieve that much power. you have to consider other things as well tranny,engine etc.

pretty much what drucea said.

 

Unless he plans on swapping in a corvette motor, he's gonna have to go turbo in some form or another to get anywhere near 400 hp.

 

I want to see a LS7 powered lancer!

Reminds me of that V8 RWD civic on street fire...hilarious.

 

400 whp on a lancer 4g94 would hit so late that it would be unusable power. Even in a drag senario it would be pointless. I think your aim is way overboard for this car and you should aim, as others have suggested, toward 250 as a realistic goal and put some money into your suspension.

Just a thought.

 

+1 for the vet motor

my buddys dad a had a rx7 with a Ls1 dropped in it . its pushin 450whp


ha but yeah start out small and build a decent kit runnin at 8-10psi.
unless you just have an endless bank account then just go all out and get a shop to do it up right