well the last few post i read were just arguing about who said what it seemed, i agree that there was some good info flow, but there is a better and more civilized way to do it.

i hope to see some dyno and drag sheets soon too

 

We should all meet up Mid Country shoot it and drink up! Screw all the bull**** and arguements.

 

lol i'd be up for tht.

 

turbo turbo turbo

 

care to tell us why u said turbo?

 

alright, heres a ??? and sorry if it was asked earlier...theres like over 10 pages to this thread...basically, i'm to lazy to read thru all of them, sorry!!!

well anyways...is this how it works: "with superchargers, you get the power right away but you can't maintain that power." example-on a freeway, a lancer w/ a sc can get up to 130 mph fairly quickly but you can't "cruise" at that speed. and w/ the tc lancer,you'll get to 130 mph (not as quickly as a sc) but it can stay at that speed continously-"cruise". now, this is what i got from some folks at my work who have more experience in this than i do. what do you guys think about this? i mean the way they explained it to me made it clear that tc is the more practical way to go rather than going sc which is a better idea for drag! HIT ME UP W/ YOUR OPINIONS PLS!

 

that hasn't been my understanding. Turbos have lag, and therefore at a certain rpm they spool up and you get a more or less sudden increase in horsepower and torque, whereas in a supercharger, its belted to the engine and the powerband is much smoother. With that said, a large difference liese in engine life. Superchargers generaly take less maintainence(sp?) and are not as hard on your engine as the whp and tq dot spike drastically and put unnatural pressures on your internals. Turbochargers arguably can yield more boost through upgrades, and some people like the feeling of being thrown back in your seat all of a sudden. All in all, it comes down to preference and future plans for your own lancer. Remember that torque gains you accelleration, horsepower keeps you in front. Hope that helps a little. To all you gurus out there, feel free to interject if i've been grossly misinformed! Happy boosting!

 

Your pretty much right. The biggest difference in turbo and sc is the torque. Sc is driven by motor therefore acting like a parasite and taking up some torque. Generally anywhere from 20-40 ftlbs on 4 cylinders. They are smoother in power but that smoothness is also makes its peak power band a bit shorter than turbo usually. All in all either system if well maintained and tune will not impact the motors life in the same way. It's trully all in the tuning. SC's tend to have more umph under 3k over turbo's do to their driven characteristics but there is an area after turbo spool that the turbo will deliver more, in terms of power band, than the sc can as it needs to get the rpms higher to supply its full boost. around 5k they are almost identical w/ exception of torque as the turbo runs off of "wasted energy" thus there are no parasidic(sp?) loses. Either way they are good products it is all about you. Drive both and decide which you want. Track times can favor either as there are to many other variables(tires/weight/other mods) that come into play. Its the streetability you need to look at and go from there.

 

There is a bit of nonsense in this post and its not acutally the poster who has it wrong.

If the car can get to 130 mph with an S/C I can tell you from personal experience that it will easily cruise at this speed. The S/C is less aggressive towards the engine. T/C gives good power with a sudden spike once the turbine recieves sufficient airflow to perform. T/C is not more practical than S/C, no way, the S/C has no cool down times, superior driveability, is not laggy, smooth delivery of the power and has high peak efficiencies. The downsides of S/C are that the power buildup is gradual across the powerband of the engine as boost is a function of engine speed, with a massive hit at the topend since that is when everything is at the max. Mind you there are a few different "types" of superchargers, the descriptions I have supplied pertain to the centrifugal type.

 

If you have a supercharger from RIPP Mods - what should you expect your 0-60 mph time be?

 

well when i go to the track and get my quarter time and my 0-60 ill let all u know

 

sounds awesome - when do u plan on going to the track because it would be cool if u knew a pretty acurate number.

Just try doing it on the street lol ... im sure there are roads that have a speed limit or 55 or 50 by u that u could get to 60 on and be fine.

 

BLaZeNoZ

First supercharged Lancer anywhere, I suppose you mean in the US. Plenty here in Australia, I supply the kits for some others are made up from other supercharger types

Would be interested to see your times etc when you get em.

 

yeah i mean the us spec lancer oz which is what i have and most of the guys that i talk to your lancer is a different car down there so the numbers wont be the same but after i get the chance to run it youll all see the times etc...

 

Actually on second thoughts the system I have would probably fit the OZ Lancer without much alteration at all and would go to 200+ at wheels. 10 psi will make the OZ move nicely............ real nicely.

Will look into this now that we have this car in Aus. Should be a piece of cake to run it in the mid 14s, maybe more