Mav's 2002 Lancer ES build thread.
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personally...
rrm is a waste of time and money. ive had problems before and they seemed to care less. definatley go the custom route and just continue to read the threads and make a list is all i can really say.
the rrm kit is proven to fit and work well, but to me the customer service is where it lacks. when i purchased most of my partial kit from them (i had sourced other parts from the evo to work better) the manifold was 4-500 bux(i dont remember for sure) but then about a year and a half on the car all the welds on the collector were cracked and they wouldn do anything about it since i "didnt buy their kit," even though i spent 3k with them that day as well.
just my opinion
rrm is a waste of time and money. ive had problems before and they seemed to care less. definatley go the custom route and just continue to read the threads and make a list is all i can really say.
the rrm kit is proven to fit and work well, but to me the customer service is where it lacks. when i purchased most of my partial kit from them (i had sourced other parts from the evo to work better) the manifold was 4-500 bux(i dont remember for sure) but then about a year and a half on the car all the welds on the collector were cracked and they wouldn do anything about it since i "didnt buy their kit," even though i spent 3k with them that day as well.
just my opinion
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it's looking like piecing a kit together is the way to go. i'm thinking if i'm having trouble finding something then i'll speak to the rrm guys.
looks like i have to read as many threads as possible and begin to make a list of the necessary parts. then as i have some money aside make purchases over time.
looks like i have to read as many threads as possible and begin to make a list of the necessary parts. then as i have some money aside make purchases over time.
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Id agreed, Custom is really the way to go if u want something for a decent price and how you want it.. if u need simple and want something thats bolt-n-go, then a kit from rrm is ideal, but it will hurt your wallet. anyone that is able to put together there own kit and assemble it all themselfs will do much better with a custom kit, you can upgrade whatever you want and take it as serious, or as simple as you want it...(im on my 2nd setup now, and not many people can keep up with what i can put down to the wheels psi for psi)
it's looking like piecing a kit together is the way to go. i'm thinking if i'm having trouble finding something then i'll speak to the rrm guys.
looks like i have to read as many threads as possible and begin to make a list of the necessary parts. then as i have some money aside make purchases over time.
looks like i have to read as many threads as possible and begin to make a list of the necessary parts. then as i have some money aside make purchases over time.
my entire setup in my lancer i feel is a hybrid between rrm and a custom (now its leaning more towards custom with a few rrm parts unlike when i first did my build). i have quite a few rrm parts on my car, but the more you research the more you will learn.
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so as I am doing some research, I am finding out that you need to tap the oil pan for the return line. is there a way to install the kit without having to tap the pan? epic failure or success depends on the size of that hole (no pun intended) and i'd rather not take that chance.
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so as I am doing some research, I am finding out that you need to tap the oil pan for the return line. is there a way to install the kit without having to tap the pan? epic failure or success depends on the size of that hole (no pun intended) and i'd rather not take that chance.
http://www.harborfreight.com/1-4-qua...ill-44460.html
Then I used this tap set to tap the hole
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-piece...set-91395.html
You want to use the 1/2 npt tap (the biggest one in the kit) cant remember the barb fitting size I used but someone will chime in. Then you just wrap the barb fitting threads with teflon tape and thread the barb fitting in I have never leaked a drop of oil
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1/2 npt to 5/8" hose , make sure you use hose rated for oil use and at least 300 degrees , the normal rubber line will break down from constant oil exposure ![Thumbs Up](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/smilie_thumbsup.gif)
If you go with braided line do not use anything less then -10 an, for oil feed use a -4 with a 12mm banjo to -4an fitting and the stock banjo bolt
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If you go with braided line do not use anything less then -10 an, for oil feed use a -4 with a 12mm banjo to -4an fitting and the stock banjo bolt
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you guys are real helpful. to be honest, i'm not 100% sure as to what that means. i'm sure after some more research, what you guys just told me will make a lot more sense.
i was also thinking maybe going to see the guys at RRM to help with the oil pan tap.
p.s i just found out from another member through PMs that there is an oil filter sandwich type adapter?....does anyone have some more info regarding that option?
p.p.s will definitely be going with speedcorps for the manifold
thanks guys!
i was also thinking maybe going to see the guys at RRM to help with the oil pan tap.
p.s i just found out from another member through PMs that there is an oil filter sandwich type adapter?....does anyone have some more info regarding that option?
p.p.s will definitely be going with speedcorps for the manifold
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Look on 03lances thread, what he means by tapping the oil pan is, look at your oil pan, there is a black box with a nut on the bottom and then that black box is connected to the aluminum pan holding it up to the motor, Im taking mine to a shop to get it done but what they do is they drill a hold on the silver aluminum part not the black part and they either will weld or thread on the return barb that is 5/8 of an inch on the silver oil pan part and all you do is get a rubber line as stated that can handle 300 degrees or more if you have to, and you connect the oil pan to the turbo and wallah theres your return line.
That piece you pointed out goes above your oil filter and you can use that to connect to your turbo for an oil feed, and oil pressure gauge to. I have the blue one even though I wanted a silver one but im not complaining I still like the color
That piece you pointed out goes above your oil filter and you can use that to connect to your turbo for an oil feed, and oil pressure gauge to. I have the blue one even though I wanted a silver one but im not complaining I still like the color
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Understandably this is a personal opinion as well but I must say RRM has provided solid service throughout the 7 years I have went to them. Ive had zero issues with the kit nor the service they provided. They even worked through issues with my engine being in as bad of shape as it was when I took it to them to get the turbo installed.
I made the mistake of once taking my car with turbo installed to another shop who just tore up all my configurations and Rob was there to help me piece it back together. They know their stuff and they have been able to work through any and all issues you might encounter.
Rob and the guys did an outstanding job and were always there even if I need a quick answer over the phone.
just my 2 cents
I made the mistake of once taking my car with turbo installed to another shop who just tore up all my configurations and Rob was there to help me piece it back together. They know their stuff and they have been able to work through any and all issues you might encounter.
Rob and the guys did an outstanding job and were always there even if I need a quick answer over the phone.
just my 2 cents
fastest auto lancer?? rrm powered
now obviously its a customer car, but you cant go an make claims without backing them up.
my $.04 now
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it's looking like when i get there I will take the pan in to get it done. only because it is such a small thing that can go very wrong and delay the process.
as for the RRM debate, i've met with those guys in person and had nothing but good vibes. but then again everyone's experience is not the same.
as for the RRM debate, i've met with those guys in person and had nothing but good vibes. but then again everyone's experience is not the same.
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I found a DC Sports stainless cat-back exhaust on local craigslist. seller says it will fit 03 OZ,ES and LS. I asked him if it will fit an '02 ES as well. My question is if anyone knows what particular exhaust he might be referring to (he did not list a model name) and if said model will fit a 2002 ES. Lastly, will said exhaust mesh well with the future turbo I plan on installing?
thanks guys!
p.s: so after a little more research, i have learned that; tapping the pan is inevitable and i am looking into ways to have it done.
i am asking because the threads are a couple of years old, maybe by now some parts are being produced to address these issues.
1. also, i am reading some of the threads around here and it looks like most people had to do some grinding to get the exhaust manifold to clear the water line, is this problem addressed with the speedcorps manifold?
2. i also keep reading about having to extend the evo 8 DP 12" for it to fit......has there been a part made to address this as well.
again, sorry for all the questions. doing my best to understand by research. dont want to start spending dollars on parts until i know exactly what has to happen in my mind.
thanks guys!
p.s: so after a little more research, i have learned that; tapping the pan is inevitable and i am looking into ways to have it done.
i am asking because the threads are a couple of years old, maybe by now some parts are being produced to address these issues.
1. also, i am reading some of the threads around here and it looks like most people had to do some grinding to get the exhaust manifold to clear the water line, is this problem addressed with the speedcorps manifold?
2. i also keep reading about having to extend the evo 8 DP 12" for it to fit......has there been a part made to address this as well.
again, sorry for all the questions. doing my best to understand by research. dont want to start spending dollars on parts until i know exactly what has to happen in my mind.
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