Zoo didnt ur car blow up or something? Did rippmods help u out in anyway? If they didnt help you out why did u go back to theM?

 

ripp helped out

 

ZOO glad to hear you got your car back together and running right.

Things happen so don't take things to much to heart... I hope RIPP helped out a lot.

You should post about what EXACTLY happened. There is a lot of rumor and speculation going on and I've even been hearing that RIPP is cancelling the Lancer SDS due to lack of interest?? Hell it's only been a few months. RIPP is getting on and posting lately so if you would act as their lieson that would be great. I'm just trying to get thru the BS... a 1000 mile breakin is BS to any tuner. If your car wasn't completely tuned and you were racing that is believable but also makes RIPP fall down a little as they said their kit was ready to go for auto and manuals.

You've been great about getting on here and keeping things truthful so your words on this mean alot!

 

That's odd. The only reason I can imagine for 1,000mi break-in is new rings.

Maybe has to do with the SC/compressor bearings?

 

Yeah i was thinking that as well and then i called about it to various SC manufacturers and they all do bench breakins which consist of basic checks and measurements. They told me that when i put one on it should be ready to go!

 

So Ripp is running away? I wanna hear what ripp has to say??

 

...If they were running away wouldn't it stand to reason that they won't respond to the thread? I doubt they're running away, but I could certainly understand their pulling the product due to lack of interest (which I'd be sorry to see happen). If you want a direct answer, you may be best off just calling them.

 

boe...i had a discription in some other ripp thread...dont know which one

 

But isn't that what the forums are all about... when Vendors come on constantly to answer/assist they get loyalty and business. Telling people to call all the time isn't exactly right in my book. I wan't to see proactive responses via both here and on the phone. That shows true commitment to their customers! Seems to me like many things are just getting covered up or clouded purposefully. That is why i'm glad ZOO is at least getting on and informing people. I don't see other SDS owners putting in much effort?

 

hobie...yes..new pistons new rings...reasons why i have to do a huge breakin period

 

Yeah, but RIPP Mods is different than say RRM for a couple reasons. For one they don't just do Lancers. Road Race is far more specialized in that respect. Also they joined later in the game and therefore haven't had nearly as much as an opportunity to build up a rep like RRM has. RIPP Mods also has their own forums for Q&A on their products. Just from a business standpoint I'm sure they get a lot more Eclipse and Galant SDS sales, so that's where they have to dedicate most of their time. Obviously it's not beneficial to be neglectful of any aspect of a business, but it may just be a time vs manpower issue for all we know.

Even if we can't all see a phone call, he can tell us what happens. Not to mention, you tend not to wait as long for a response. It's pretty much instant gratification.

Quite honestly, I'm suprised how quiet the other SDS owners are too. Having seen some of the other SDS for the Galant, and have heard zero in the way of complaints. The setups seem well built, and offer fuel as well as cooling solutions. Perhaps the reason no one's talking is similar to the reason you only read complaints on these forums. Nobody feels the need to post unless something goes wrong. Iono.

 

Yeah i see what your saying hobie... but RRM only has 3 employees including the owner. They do tiburon/srt-4/wrx as well. While they do specialize in the lancer big time they do have many other interests. Especially carbon fiber since Carbontrix is actually RRM owned. The CF business does a hell of a killing everywhere.

Turbo guys are all over pimping, stating dislikes/likes, and general talking about their stuff. The SDS guys have been lacking in that. I don't want to see the product go away either but the lack of support is only due to its relative new beginnings. Their backing out or dropping the product speaks big time about their dedications... they are in it for money and money only. Venders like that need to go away anyway.

 

Umm Boe I don't know any vendor that doesn't have bottomline as it's major priority.

No one gives their product away.

I'm sorry but sometimes you go a little too far when it comes to criticizing other companies.
Yes we have heard very little about the SDS from the lancer few that have it but in every discussion I have seen "someone" has come on and badgered the thread to death with RRM comparisons.

Enough should be enough.

If RIPP does go away then so be it, that's business and maybe another competitor will step to the plate.

Just me 2cents

WADAD

 

I just think its wrong... there are vendors out there evo/lancer/ralliart/etc. that are on these boards daily. They have huge work scheduales and still find time. In my book that makes them more for me than just for money.

I know bottom line they are in it for profit but there is an ethical way to go about it then there is an un-ethical way to cheat people out of it. RIPP is a huge company in my opinion and has sold, with great success, many kits. They've taken critisism from a lot and rose above it by product quality. Where they messed up with the lancer is by putting out empty promises that have now been proven empty... then instead of fighting to keep things alive and regain the respect they bag out. That sucks.

The 3G and golant guys would never believe RIPP was doing this... that's why i can't see why they are doing this. It just doesn't make sense. Other SDS owners aren't coming to the rescue either. That doesn't settle well with me either. I don't car if people go turbo or SC i just want them to get good power and be happy. That also means that all promises need to come true. RIPP has a chance to correct all this but instead they are just backing out. That sucks... there needs to be competition in order to keep improvements and prices going in positive directions. RIPP SC was a great alternative to turbo. It will be missed i feel.

 

The 500-1000 mile break in required of all of our kits because the Black Box (fuzzy logic adaptive piggy back engine management system) must adapt to the cars ECU and ECU needs to adjust to the black box's preprogrammed parameters set in the Black Box. ZooRacer’s car was our "AUTO TESTING VEHICLE". In the middle of testing on his Auto we were making the final preparations for I.A.S. and wanted to include him as a featured car. We loaded the Beta program (5SPD tune) in the black box just so we could get the car around. Somewhere in the confusion the car ended up burning up 2 pistons and a valve. We put thousands of hour’s worth of R&D into our kits as a precautionary measure. We would never release a sub par product that would damage anyone’s vehicle. Our Manual "TESTING VEHICLE" hasn't had one problem to this day and it has been through rigorous testing. Most of the design and adjustments were done on his vehicle and he is driving over a year on his SDS Lancer problem free. THE RIPP SDS IS THE MOST RELIABLE AND POWERFUL FORCED INDUCTION KIT IN THE MARKET TODAY! If you are a potential customer and you are interested in using Forced Induction on your car, please be sure to speak to as many customers as possible who have purchased the kit whether it is a RIPP kit or another manufacturer’s. Please listen to facts as well as customer experience. Inquire about our products either by phone or on the web and you will instantly see why we put so much time and care into creating viable kits that will improve the performance of your vehicle without compromising the everyday drivability. We’ve had great success with our other applications and hope to have equal success with our SDS Lancer project. This being one of our newest kits we look to forums like these to expose our new products to the public and can only rely on enthusiasts to look into what we are offering and see that the RIPP SDS is the right choice. Please do not allow yourselves to be frightened by other members because everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you are new to the sport and are looking for guidance don’t allow a disgruntled member to warp your perception of which Forced Induction kit is best for you and your car. We have 4 SDS Lancer Customers on this forum. Feel free to PM them and listen to what their experiences have been with their SDS. We are open 6 days a week feel free to pick up the phone and give us a call at 718-442-4723.