evo 8 motor swap
okay so now that i've read this entire thread over like twice to completely "try" and understand everyones point of view this is what i've taken into considering and what makes sense to me from what i've read or what i know:
i know the mirages and evo's seem to have a lot more compatible parts or swaps for options as goes with the eclipses. although you would think they keep the lancers as a whole more alike than any of the mitusbishi line. granite some of the interior and exterior parts are the same but i mean engine bay and engine wise.
AND yes i too want to do an engine swap... i want the same engine my friends have in their evo8's the 4g63t... but it sounds like its a lot more everything than what i first thought. i knew it would cost, but i'm starting to doubt that even if i had the money that any shop in or near iowa could do the swap. it seems like all it really is money wise besides the engine itself is just buying all the components that go along with the 4g63t engine (which is common sense), and just making sure everything lines up and works right.
having that engine would be sweet... but wouldn't taking the stock engine in the oz and doing a lot mods to it possibly be able to be faster if not as fast as an evo for less money than the cost of an engine swap?
i know the mirages and evo's seem to have a lot more compatible parts or swaps for options as goes with the eclipses. although you would think they keep the lancers as a whole more alike than any of the mitusbishi line. granite some of the interior and exterior parts are the same but i mean engine bay and engine wise.
AND yes i too want to do an engine swap... i want the same engine my friends have in their evo8's the 4g63t... but it sounds like its a lot more everything than what i first thought. i knew it would cost, but i'm starting to doubt that even if i had the money that any shop in or near iowa could do the swap. it seems like all it really is money wise besides the engine itself is just buying all the components that go along with the 4g63t engine (which is common sense), and just making sure everything lines up and works right.
having that engine would be sweet... but wouldn't taking the stock engine in the oz and doing a lot mods to it possibly be able to be faster if not as fast as an evo for less money than the cost of an engine swap?
Lily- thank you for searching first and not starting a new thread. That's how it's supposed to work. It IS possible to get your lancer to approximately stock Evo numbers. You should look for posts by OmarBoy and his nearly (maybe over) 300WHP Lancer. I can guarantee that it was less expensive than trying to mate a G63 motor to a FWD tranny and completely fabricating the drivetrain. The big issue may be that you might need to run a standalone computer. If that's the case, you might also want to PM SHDtown about his microtech standalone and what kind of tuning/support you'd need. Hobie and the AEM forums are a good place to go to discuss the AEM standalone.
Good luck and don't even dignify Phatom's statements with a response.
Good luck and don't even dignify Phatom's statements with a response.
Well I never. The amount of work required to get a 4G94 to pump that kind of horse power is beyond capacity of the human brain to compute. Or it could be that if you have a Master -P type bank account you could do it.
I just wanted to say that RRM was featured in a magazine, as having an 11 sec. Lancer. That is awesome. Sure there are many years worth of blood sweat and tears poured into it. Not to mention the thing is completely gutted.
So i checked out Omarboy. he has 300 whp and 300 TQ at 19psi! WTF! who th hell would want to run 19psi!
basically what i am saying is the amount of work to get it even remotly close to STOCK hp output of an EVOLUTION, is just stupid.
Really it is ultimatley up too you how to go about getting the Lancer to run like an EVOLUTION. Just remember that basically buy a Turbo and then figure out how not to blow your engine to pieces. So far Boe is the only one i know who has figured this out.
as usual My comments are meant to help and guide, not bring you down.
SO....
I just wanted to say that RRM was featured in a magazine, as having an 11 sec. Lancer. That is awesome. Sure there are many years worth of blood sweat and tears poured into it. Not to mention the thing is completely gutted.
So i checked out Omarboy. he has 300 whp and 300 TQ at 19psi! WTF! who th hell would want to run 19psi!
basically what i am saying is the amount of work to get it even remotly close to STOCK hp output of an EVOLUTION, is just stupid.
Really it is ultimatley up too you how to go about getting the Lancer to run like an EVOLUTION. Just remember that basically buy a Turbo and then figure out how not to blow your engine to pieces. So far Boe is the only one i know who has figured this out.
as usual My comments are meant to help and guide, not bring you down.
SO....
Originally Posted by trueno429
just buy a evo....simple as that
I love how this response will never go away. Imagine if somebody swapped a ferrari engine into a Ford Festiva. Do you think people would still say "You should have bought a Ferrari?"
by the way, I recently learned that there are groups of people who are tuning festivas. That's ****in' ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Phantom0
Well I never. The amount of work required to get a 4G94 to pump that kind of horse power is beyond capacity of the human brain to compute. Or it could be that if you have a Master -P type bank account you could do it.
I just wanted to say that RRM was featured in a magazine, as having an 11 sec. Lancer. That is awesome. Sure there are many years worth of blood sweat and tears poured into it. Not to mention the thing is completely gutted.
So i checked out Omarboy. he has 300 whp and 300 TQ at 19psi! WTF! who th hell would want to run 19psi!
basically what i am saying is the amount of work to get it even remotly close to STOCK hp output of an EVOLUTION, is just stupid.
Really it is ultimatley up too you how to go about getting the Lancer to run like an EVOLUTION. Just remember that basically buy a Turbo and then figure out how not to blow your engine to pieces. So far Boe is the only one i know who has figured this out.
as usual My comments are meant to help and guide, not bring you down.
SO....
I just wanted to say that RRM was featured in a magazine, as having an 11 sec. Lancer. That is awesome. Sure there are many years worth of blood sweat and tears poured into it. Not to mention the thing is completely gutted.
So i checked out Omarboy. he has 300 whp and 300 TQ at 19psi! WTF! who th hell would want to run 19psi!
basically what i am saying is the amount of work to get it even remotly close to STOCK hp output of an EVOLUTION, is just stupid.
Really it is ultimatley up too you how to go about getting the Lancer to run like an EVOLUTION. Just remember that basically buy a Turbo and then figure out how not to blow your engine to pieces. So far Boe is the only one i know who has figured this out.
as usual My comments are meant to help and guide, not bring you down.
SO....
And to prove what you said about the RRM Lancer has no relevancy, my close friend has run his Mirage at 12.5 at 119mph with full interior, and everything (btw RRM's Lancer didnt run 11s, it ran 12.8 or so). Not to mention tons of PRcans who have turboed the hell out of their Mirage.... Alextek, a running mate, has run 11.44.
Ultimately, all I am saying is that you CAN get a 4G9x at the output of a 4G63, for less than that cost. Granted you can now find Evo IV and V clips for 2500 bucks shipped, the cost to have them installed can grow quickly. I had a built beast that is dying a premature death and i guarantee yo uthat 1/2 of this site makes more income than I do. All in how you do it and how you spend your money. But it can be done.
alright into reply to Phantom0 and trueno429.....
first off all sorry not everyone if made of f-ing money to go off and buy an evo. and second of all yes there is such thing as a loan but STILL sometimes people can't afford a car like that and a life. and third and finally... how are you going to sit here and talkin crap about us oz owners like we ain't crap... okay mr i have f-ing camry you have NO F-ING room to talk. you don't even have a mitsubishi! HELLO! not to sound like a B but do i sense a bit of jealously because you don't have a mitsubishi? crap i'm not sitting here telling you to go buy a f-ing mitsu am i? NO! so back the f off all us oz owners that are looking into evo engine swaps. all you've done is sit here and said "go buy in evo" yeah i'd like to see you own a f-ing evo.. SHUT THE HELL UP! and mr i'm the phantom not to sound like a royal B but you have no room to talk either. you don't even have your car listed what it is. for all we know u don't have an f-ing car. so back off!
i think that its really funny how this site is MEANT and SET UP for MITSUBISHI ENTHUSIASTS yet all some of you do is come on here and bash the ones for TRYING to be different. so YES the evo engine swap isn't the easiest nor the cheapest but for us OZ and other lancers owners that don't wanna be like everyone else that owns an evo than yeah know that makes us different. that makes us stand out because were not sitting around trying to be like everyone else.
this site and this thread should have its ups and downs and obiviously it does but COME ON! don't sit here and have this thread for people that are just going to run their mouths. i dare you to go out and be unique and different and i dare you to go try something no many other people have.
i encourage all us oz owners to do crap like the evo swap and whatever else. crap i support it too, and not just because i have an oz. i use to have a honda and i still wanted to be different with that too. but i love my mitsu's so the honda went BYE BYE!
i was referred to this site by a fellow member with an evo and he told me i would just love this site to death. and so far i do and i don't. i don't need to sit here and be told by people i don't even know that i'm stupid or that this whole idea of an evo swap is stupid. f to all you that think that but crap... don't sit here and make fun of those being different.
an all i can say is hate me or respect me. just don't talk crap because unless you've done the evo engine swap and it ended up pointless then SHUT UP!
first off all sorry not everyone if made of f-ing money to go off and buy an evo. and second of all yes there is such thing as a loan but STILL sometimes people can't afford a car like that and a life. and third and finally... how are you going to sit here and talkin crap about us oz owners like we ain't crap... okay mr i have f-ing camry you have NO F-ING room to talk. you don't even have a mitsubishi! HELLO! not to sound like a B but do i sense a bit of jealously because you don't have a mitsubishi? crap i'm not sitting here telling you to go buy a f-ing mitsu am i? NO! so back the f off all us oz owners that are looking into evo engine swaps. all you've done is sit here and said "go buy in evo" yeah i'd like to see you own a f-ing evo.. SHUT THE HELL UP! and mr i'm the phantom not to sound like a royal B but you have no room to talk either. you don't even have your car listed what it is. for all we know u don't have an f-ing car. so back off!
i think that its really funny how this site is MEANT and SET UP for MITSUBISHI ENTHUSIASTS yet all some of you do is come on here and bash the ones for TRYING to be different. so YES the evo engine swap isn't the easiest nor the cheapest but for us OZ and other lancers owners that don't wanna be like everyone else that owns an evo than yeah know that makes us different. that makes us stand out because were not sitting around trying to be like everyone else.
this site and this thread should have its ups and downs and obiviously it does but COME ON! don't sit here and have this thread for people that are just going to run their mouths. i dare you to go out and be unique and different and i dare you to go try something no many other people have.
i encourage all us oz owners to do crap like the evo swap and whatever else. crap i support it too, and not just because i have an oz. i use to have a honda and i still wanted to be different with that too. but i love my mitsu's so the honda went BYE BYE!
i was referred to this site by a fellow member with an evo and he told me i would just love this site to death. and so far i do and i don't. i don't need to sit here and be told by people i don't even know that i'm stupid or that this whole idea of an evo swap is stupid. f to all you that think that but crap... don't sit here and make fun of those being different.
an all i can say is hate me or respect me. just don't talk crap because unless you've done the evo engine swap and it ended up pointless then SHUT UP!
Last edited by Lily03; Aug 13, 2005 at 03:40 AM.
like ive said before.
like ive said before.
this forum has a bunch of arrogant **** offs who think their so awsome that they have to bring people down because they have nothing better to do with their lives. scew em just tell them their being rediculous, try to move on.
Originally Posted by akasirlancerlot
like ive said before.
like ive said before.
like ive said before.
Originally Posted by Phantom0
2 THINGS
1. Granite is a rock, Granted is the word you want.
2. No, the 4G94 is an SOHC, yur still not gonna get what yur looking for.
Enjoy your lancer. Quite trying to F-it up.
1. Granite is a rock, Granted is the word you want.
2. No, the 4G94 is an SOHC, yur still not gonna get what yur looking for.
Enjoy your lancer. Quite trying to F-it up.
1. its Quit! not quite... so its "quite" possible you just didn't notice
my thought on the swap is it would be an awsome idea and go ahead with it if you have the time and money to do it since it has never been done. Most people will say the us lancer isnt built for speed and if we want speed to just go buy an eclipse or something. But most people like me bought the lancer because you dont see many around and they have simple but cool styling. evos are very costly and it seems like they are everywhere. so to have a evo engine in a lancer body would be awsome. Just gotta devote the time to it.
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