Definately the best reason

 

Whats the challenge of getting a 1G DSM into the 13's for 10G's, not alot but why not shoot for something better. And I can fit alot of chicks when I pop the hatch open.

 

To break into 13's you will need around 200whp, good gearing, good clutch, good tires, good suspension setup, and one hell of a pilot behind the wheel. With all that being said, my question to you is: why do you want to try and reach 13's with a Lancer ES? I mean, sure it can be done, but if you're interested in drag racing, the Lancer is not exactly a good platform to start with. We're talking about not-so-good gearing, open differential, front wheel drive, soft suspension, 4 cylinders, low displacement, and small aftermarket support...

 

I love how this guy asks how to run in the 13s with his ES Lancer, and eople suggest getting other cars. Ignorant, the bunch of you........

 

Stock EVO = mid 14's ????? Where did you get this info? With a piggyback and catback, an EVO will get you into 12's for about $1300-$1600. A 13 second Lancer ES would be unique, but it would cost a lot of money. There are used EVO's going around for mid $20K. Wait a year, and I'm sure you'll find one for $22k.

TypeIII, I'm not a drag person, but I'm guessing you would need a lot more than 200 whp to get into 13's unless your car weighs less than 2000lbs.

 

That's great. We're still talking about a Lancer ES, not the Evolution. Please stay on topic.

Also keep in mind Boe's time was on slicks if I remember correctly. A lot of the parts mentioned could be cut out if the setup is built properly Best estimated cost I've seen so far was the 6-8k range with plenty of options as to how it's done. Remember the two most important things...fuel and grip.

 

I was try to correct some misinformation. I did keep on topic by mentioning to buy an EVO instead .

 

BUY AN EVO!

 

Yeah, the point being he didn't ask what cars he could trade his ES in for to run 13's.

So far I think the answers have been pretty close. Breaking high 13's is more a matter of money than massive overhauls. You shouldn't need internals to hit 13's. Boe has forged pistons because of his encounters with nitrous and RRM has them (I'm guessing) because...well they sell them and their fuel system buildup is fairly minimal. Though it's safer than stock pistons it's doable with comparable fuel increases.

 

No past 5.0 can get 13 secs w/o NOS. A few bolt-ons won't do it either. W/ a SC, it gets into the high 10 w/ half **** tuning.

No modern 6 banger 'stang can do it w/o TC. A SVT cobra will do . . . look at the price tag. It better run that time.

If anyone think a post 99 GT w/ just I/E can tag a stock C5 vette , they're wrong. I have seen a WS6 tagging 14.1 - 14.4's w/ just I/E on a hot day while a girl driving a stock C5 tagging 13.5-13.8's all day! No 'stang guys were able to really match GM's pony cars. The only car that tore up cars that hot day was a Buick GN that hauled down 12.9's, beating a few mild modified DSMs tagging 13.3 -13.8's.

 

Trust me, you don't. Just an example...

97 GTi VR6, 175whp, open diff, 205/50/15 street tires @ 23psi, stock gearing (trapped at top of 3rd - read: long gearing), weighed in at 2800lb, can run down a 1/4 mile in 14.45 seconds trapping at 95.5mph with a 2.223 60 foot time on a 100F+ day. (March 15th, 2001 Sacramento Raceway, CA)

With Lancer's weight, if you factor in a better R/P, aftermarket LSD, drag slick, one can break into the 13 range with 200whp easily.

 

Pardon my ignorance, but what's R/P?

 

Ring & Pinion... Your final drive in your tranny.

 

I can dig it. Thanks. Never heard to it referred to as such before.

On a turbocharged Lancer the gearing actually ain't too bad. First gear revs quickly to redline and after that you're in boost the whole rest of your accel. More researched and gearing specific to mods would undoubtedly help, but I don't see it as being a major issue worth opening the tranny for just to hit 13's. Hell at 13's you could still be on the stock clutch (though it probably won't last you too long )