has anyone actually installed and successfully ran evo X cams? id like to see this. I remember a while back there was a guy talking about how he was putting a 50 shot in his car and he started a thread and everything, and put pics and videos up, then a few weeks later, no word from him ever again. so his engine probably blew up. good luck with the cams and stuff, but the rods are the weak point. they might as well be plastic. dont make it too lean...

 

4G63 is a completely different motor, so dont just "say" that 250 is reachable on a motor that you have no experience dealing with

 

This is all B.S. without some dyno charts.

"I did all this and now I thrash civic's" isn't really evidence of the performance of the car.

/2cents

P.S. 250whp N/A? lolwut? The 2.4 baselines around 130-140whp. I don't think you're getting another 110-120whp out of it.

 

Like five threads down ... https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/la...vo-x-cams.html

The EvoX cams will fit in the 4b11 and 4b12 even though the cams are designed for the 4b11T; according to that thread and the one w/ X cams in a DE. Will need pistons and springs and retune.
http://www.briancrower.com/makes/mit...lvetrain.shtml

I'd love to see what kind of performance we can get going N/A.

 

I actually meant to say the 4g69 not 63. and another thing I didnt come out claiming it IS possible. I just said i wouldnt DOUBT it.

 

I wasn't going to say anything but he's right. This thread needs like a speculation disclaimer before noobs go dumping tons of money into their cars based on all the wishful thinking here lol.

 

That's what i've been saying since I bought my Lancer, I just get *****ed at for saying it though lol.

As far as the EVO X cams go, it's all speculation. Someone in PR posts that it's a safe mod, there is no photos of the install, no dyno no tuning informaton. Sure it might yeild some gains but who really knows.

Dadsgts also has the cams in his car but he's running a EVO Turbo setup, not NA. He also hasn't posted any videos.

Purhaps the OP can be the real tester if the cams are actually a worth while investment.

 

Dude, you seem like a really nice guy and all, but...................There is no way on Gods green Earth that you are "thrashing" civic Type R's.......if that is what they actually are. or it is just your ricer friends with Type R stickers on their DX.

 

Honestly, not to be hating, I had an '08 GTS before the X, you guys are on crack!! Above is what a stock X makes at the wheels, there is no possibly way you could make your NA motor 240-250 WHP........It's just not gonna happen!!! All you guys keep talking about tuning......"tuning" on a torbo car can make drastic changes since you are dealing with forced unduction......You are naturally aspirated, what exactly are you "tuning" what will a piggy back do?? You block and the X block are totally different on the inside..besides, I know it has been beaten to death, just buy an EVO instead of shellin thousands of dollars to make a FWD car a lil faster......your listed mods would barely give you an additional 40 WHP?????????????????

 

From someone who's thrown way too much money into an NA Lancer, I'll have to say that I agree with wicked white14. I may not have the 4B11, but my 2003 model has an Injen short ram, upgraded plugs and wires, GReddy Ti-C exhaust, RRM lightweight crank pulley, and solid motor mounts that I recently removed. And it's driven in Florida, on sea level, where there's plenty of air for it to breathe. That's in addition to the high performance tires, the Tein suspension, Hawk pads, and the Progress sway bar. I'd be shocked if my car is making any more than maybe ten horsepower more than stock. It's fun to drive fast in, but not fast to drive in, and that's all you can expect out of a Lancer without a turbo.

If you want to shred Civic Type R's, well... first you'll need to move to Europe or Japan, because an Si is not the same thing. The Si is heavier and has less horsepower than the Type R. You'd definitely need a turbo. Honda is known for their superior NA engines, while Mitsubishi definitely is not. A stock Civic Si will beat a stock GTI on a road course, and the Type R is even quicker than that.

You'll also need to shell out tons of money voiding your warranty on a turbo, or do the smart thing and trade it for a new RalliArt or WRX and you'll get to keep a warranty. I'm pretty sure it'll cost less in the end too.

 

Well has anyone heard anything else from dadsgts or any PR guy with the cams? my guess is they did what the Nitrous guy did a while ago.....tell all about the install, and blow their motor and never show up again.

in fact, I think im the only person that I know on the forums that has blown my motor and kept active on here lol

 

This.

I mean if youre getting all these mods in hopes of someday reaching 200hp, chances are you're not thrashing the SIs, which are around 200hp stock, in the mean time. It's inconsistancies like this which require you to take this thread with a grain of salt lol.

 

Well for all of you guys who are saying that gts arent capable of achieving good numbers here is the link to the forum where the dyno sheet and video was posted of the NA gts whit 191whp 185tq
I really can't believe after all that have been discuss here that people insist on knowing if they fit or not and if our engines can or cant achieve good numbers on NA or force induction.

http://www.carrito.net/board/showthr...r-De-All-Motor

 

Wow so many replies haha. Ok first thing first. Like I said I am at altitude (South Africa so yes we get FN2 Type R's, the ones im talking about here), thus NA loses power up here. In addition the high the compression of the motor, the more power is lost at altitude. Trust me the Type R can barely do a 8 second 0-100 up here, while the lancer stock did it in 10.
Also as I said the only bolt on mod bought is the injen CAI which is brilliant. Everything else is custom made. Not some noise maker exhaust, but rather a fully developed and custom made setup. Also the car A/F mixture is leaned out, mivec activation rpm lowered, rpm limit increased and running premium fuel with additives.
So yes at sea level i will probably not be able to keep up with type R's, but up here I am slightly faster as they make about 130whp here. And yes they are Type R's Oh also bear in mind that the lancer has a better torque and power curve than the type R's stock. Its only the RPM limit that saves them. RPM for RPM under 6500, the lancer is slightly better. In addition my lancer is lighter. Stripped it of a good 60kg so far, not counting the lightweight racing seats still to go in. But weighing them each, they are just over 12kg lighter than the stock seats.

Now like I said in the original post, I dont want to be told it CANT be done. I wanted to hear from people attempting it like me. Ill take all the scepticism positively as I am a nice guy and I was too sceptical at the start
However I will be purchasing all the parts i need soon and will keep u all posted.

 

My main issue from what I see on this forum and Project Lancer is all these PR guys pop up with wild claims of parts fitting or insane whp from a bolted 4B11 or 4B12. But there is no photos or how-to or anything to go off of. I always hear how a 4G69 TB will increase power but theres been no one that has actually done it to provide photos or a before and after dyno, same goes with the evo x cams.

I can def tell you PR guys seem to be tuning gods of the 4B11 and 4B12.