how hard is it to install a tunable fuel set up, like the SAFC or the AFC? BUt do i need those if i have a RRM PB?

 

where can I order this from, do any of Rpw us distributors carry the stage one camshafts?

 

go to www.visionimports.com . you order from them, and then RPW seems to ship to you. i got my header and FPR in about 6 days.

 

i ordered my camshaft and cam gear also the valve springs
2 1/2 weeks ago still havent got them still waiting but they have
good customer service looks like rpw in austrailia is dragging
talk to matt hes a good to deal with is he the only one working there?
he is waiting for camshaft then ready for shipment cant wait

 

Call me stupid but im having a brainfart: What the **** is an AFC or a SAFC?
ive read it about 30 times in this forum

 

Air/fuel controller? I'm pretty sure it's something like that

 

AirQuez

Where did you see this stage 3 cam in Action and what type of car was it on?

Also what type of results?

I'll never go that big but just wondering what is possible.

WADAD

 

For those ordering our camshafts - please be aware that we try to keep a large range in stock but no matter what camshaft grinds we keep someone will always want one we don't have at some time.

When we don't have them in stock we normally take aroudn 3 weeks to get them made so please bear with us. We are increasing stocks as we slowly turn into a larger mail order / warehouse setup to start stocking and providing more options for future customers.

Best thing to remember when ordering these items is find out stock and availability first rather than order and then be surprised when it doesn't rock up within a week,

 

Hey mitsiman, do you think you can go over all the stages their are for both NA and FI lancers, and what other accessories are required for those lancers to run at those stages. Also what gains should you expect at each stage? Thank you

 

The cam was on a 4G93 quad-TB'ed Mirage... The cam is still over at my friend's house actually. VERY aggressive with that nice loppy idle that I love. We never got the car to a dyno but the car was singing sweet music. Of course there was the increased air input, but, with no exaggeration, I was standing about 7 feet back from teh exhaust and I could feel the exhaust gases banging on my legs still. Not THAT is one aggressive NA.


I believe they have Stages 1 through 3 (or is it 4) but you can probably find that info on their site. I know for a fact that Stage 2 and up, you will need the upgraded springs, and a cam gear is recommended as well.

 

i think its 1-3 and turbo

 

http://www.rpw.com.au/Products/Engin.../camshafts.htm

Not to avoid writing information but the above link is a detailed decription of cmashafts we have for the mitsuishi vehicles and outlines clearly mods needed with each level.

We do for the USA Lancer vehicles though

A Stage 1 for auto and manuel models
A Stage 1.5 for manuel models (Too aggressive for auto stock computer)
A stage 2, 3 and 4

We also do the same combo's above in both turbocharger and supercharger profile. The main difference between turbo and n/a cams is the grinds are reversed on the lobes for teh same profile so for example

Rough numbers say a stage 1 is 120 degrees adv on intake and 100 on exhaust with 200" lift on both (Obviously very in accurate) and has a 110 degree centreline.

A stage 1 turbo woudl be 100 on the exhaust, 120 on the intake with same lift but have a centreline of only around 105 degrees.

This means that we are helping to get the turbo spooled up and ensuring the new fuel and pressurised air does not go straight out the exhaust.

For a supercharger profile though we do teh same in terms of reversing profiles but we use the same N/A centreline as we still need to push the gases out more as they are being sucked out via extractors instead of driving a turbo.

A very rough explanation but one I think should explain them more.

 

it would really be nice to see some actual numbers as far as dyno's and 1/4 mile times from some people here

 

The problem with camshafts and dyno reports is that different mods will affect directly the hp output of the camshafts. More effective mods like tuned length 4-1 headers will affect hp directly for example

Fit a stage 1 camsahfts with a set of shorty 4-1 headers and this will emphasize the top end horsepower of teh camsahft but not fully utilise the torque gains.

Fit a stage 1 camshaft with a set of long tuned length 4-1 headers and the camshafts will come into tehre own with the same top end gain but in conjunction with the headers and there long length make strong low rpm and midrange gains in torque.

This is just one example look at all teh other optiosn - short V long air induction kits and filter sizes, o/size throttle bodies, computer mods etc.

So hence why I cannot give a specific HP gain as its just not realistic to do so. Not all aftermarket products are equal and will all vary the results

So the only thing we can do is depend upon feedback from customers in yuor own groups who have fited them for feed back.

 

Finally someone who says it how it is!!! People seem to think that mods are a calculator for hp, it's just a rough estimate. I do believe a desktop dyno can help you figure out these things. They allow you to alter cam, valves, intake, exhaust, etc. and give you faily close numbers. But tuning is just that, doing things and seeing how well they work.