Kirby

I've heard about it, never seen any specs, how does it compare to the WRX and the Skyline. I've been in a WRX (US version) not extremly fast but Ive never taken a turn at 65 so that was cool.

Buck-O

Well, i dont have any hard numbers (yet), but a stock EVO-VII GSR will put the smack down on an a new WRX STi, quite easily too i might add.

As for the Skyline, in the twisty stuff, the VII would efinatly have an advantage, it has alot getter brakes, and alot better midrange power, and is substantially lighter then the R34. However, in a straight line, th gearing on the R34 is alot taller then the Evo, and the HP is in alot higher torque band then the Evo, so it would have a clear advantage on top speed.

Overall thgough, the Evo-VII is a really formitable package, not only on gravel, but also on Tarmac. In the Japanese Alpine rally, 4 of the top 5 cars where Evo-VII's. The number one car being a fully pro-drive prepped Impreza WR Car driven by Tohsi Arai. So the car definatly has alot of potential. And ic ant wait to see it in its WR Car trim at the end of this year in the WRC.

Racer X

What I read in a magazine was Mitsu used a smaller turbo in the VII than the VI to reduce turbo lag but increased the size of the intercooler. For the US spec VII they could not fit the larger intercooler behind the US spec bumper so they were working on that problem. I think the article said something about 276 HP.

Subie Gal

EVO VII SPECS...
Engine - - - - -4cyl, in-line
Displacement - - -1997cc
Bore x stroke - - -85mm x 88mm
Compression Ratio - 8.8 to one
Cylinder Block - - -aluminum alloy
Max Power - - - - - 276bhp @6500rpm
Max Torque - - - - 282lb ft @3500rpm
Transmission - - - -5spd - 4 wheel drive

Front Suspension - -MacPherson struts - coil springs - anti roll bar

Rear Suspension - - Multi-link, coil springs, anti roll bar

Brakes - ventilated discs front and rear - 332mm dia in front/306mm rear, ABS

Wheels - - - -8.0 x 17 front and rear, alloy
Weight (kerb) - -1400kg
Power to weight -200bhp/ton

there's more but my fingers hurt

from EVO Magazine...May 2001

j. www.subiegal.com

Kirby

Is the 276 to the wheels? and what would it most likely cost in the US, even if it were better is it gonna be in a different price bracket? The WRX seems like a great deal for the price.

Buck-O

No, tis not to the wheels, thats flywheel BHP, as most all production cars are speced out.

But, dont look at the HP number, the important number to look at is the torque.

282lb ft @3500rpm

Most large V8's in pickup trucks dont have that kind of torque.

The mosre torque you have, and the lower the RPM range, the faster the car wil respond to inputs. And if you have ever seen the torque band on an Evo, its preaty damn flat. So the car will pull hard through the entire rev range, and in any gear.

None of this Honda Civic Si, 170 HP, and 110lbs. ft. of torque at 7,500 RPM. Thats whack.
You loose a little HP through the 4WD drivetrain, but once it gets moving, its more efficient at putting the power to the road at all four wheels. Plus with the Active Yaw Control, and active differentials of the Evolution 6 and 7, that power transfer is even more excentuated, and efficient.

Lan Evo

Just wanna add on something on the AYC and ACD.

The AYC was first introduced on EVO IV, back then it was a highly debatable move. The structure of the AYC is actually a combination of multiple layer of metal disc accompanied with the ECU. The ECU will sense the torque on each wheel and distribute the torque on each wheel in order to get the maximum traction/grip. One of the major “bug” for this system is when the car is going through multiple turns for different direction like an “S” curve, the AYC didn’t not response well enough. It’s mostly “stuck” in working for the first turn while the car is already in the second turn. This result in fluid leaking for the AYC system, so most race cars will just drain 50cc of the AYC fluid before the race. Even in EVO V, VI or even 6.5 TME, this bug still happens sometime although it’s improved dramatically.

The ACD (Active Center Differential) is first introduced in EVO VII. The system mostly target on different road surfaces. It has three modes: 1) tarmac, 2) gravel and 3) snow. Again, this is a gadget that combines mechanical differential and ECU involvement.

Buck-O

Yeah, i know about that AYC "bug", really annoying. Ive heard ALOT of griping about that by most Lancer owners. Especially the people that do alot of autocross, or Gymkhana. I think even Option and Best MotoRing complained about the AYC. Even though in the 6.5 and VII it was VASTLY improved, it still had more then its fare share of querkyness, and issues.

For the center diff on the EVO-VII i thought that was a full tripple plate, electronic diff? That had no mechanical input into it for torque sensing. Oh well, not that big of a deal. It supposed to have a feature on it that when the hand brake is lifted, it disengadges the rear wheels, and allows you to keep power on to the front wheels to help pull the car into a drift. Now thats cool.

russthelm

Take those hp figures with a grain of salt. They are based on Japan's gentlemans agreement. All Japanese supercars are 276 hp.
There are no hard numbers on the EVO VII, but the commonly accepted value is around 310-315 hp.
Thats to the crank of course.

mt057

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