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Well, at least now I know that the wing does the trick. But I wonder if all those wing replicas out there are all creating downforce though? What if they didn't care about it and just put that CF/fiberglass insert at whatever angle they thought looked okay? I sure as hell won't ever be buying the OEM wing from the dealer. Some guys are very satisfied with their copies... but of course, I know of no one who has ever posted about the downforce. I whish there was an aerodynamicist l roaming around the forum. Where are these guys when you need them anyway? ... Okay, okay! I know... they're at Ferrari or McLaren making the big bucks and couldn't care less about stock Lancers.

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I think a lower tie bar causes the car to oversteer more readily which obviously adds to the instability problem.

 

All wings create downforce, downforce is basically a result of drag, realistically you're not going to notice the difference from one high wing to another unless you're going 200mph in a car that weighs less than 1000kg.

 

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This is getting more and more puzzling... one of the mods told me it actually cured his understeer problem. Then again, the RA is heavier on the front... so maybe it just evens things out for us.

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i'll still with my low-wing

 

Are you certain that the aftermarket ones do though? And would they produce more or less of it? And BTW, downforce can be generated with very low drag... just look at the performance of the McLaren in this year's F1 championship. It's been known for decades now just how you can make a car stick to the road with the use of wings... but it's been a race ever since for who would make this happen while creating less and less drag. A lot of the drag on a car is created by vortices and badly placed areas of low pressure... and if you design right, you can reduce these drag producing spots while maintaining maximum downforce.

And yeah, I should have gone to school a bit longer so I would be making the big bucks too...

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Are we talking about the McClaren F1? No we're talking about the lancer. I'm not a physicist or an engineer so I have no idea how much downforce they all produce but realistically unless you want to spend thousands of dollars going to the windtunnels to have it tested you're not ever going to know.

 

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Calm down man... no need to argue over any of this. I knew from the start my question would probably remain unanswered anyway.

Now, I was just answering your comment about drag and downforce. I know the two are often associated, but they're rather like HP and torque... one goes with the other up to a certain point, but they're not exactly the same forces. I guess the engineers at Mitsubishi know a thing or two about drag too and probably ran the car through the wind tunnel... which is a good thing for us Lancer owners. What applies to the EVO should apply to a car that has the same shape...

As for the high-wing, I was hoping that someone on this board had the chance to examine both and saw that the shape was exactly the same. Then we can be reasonably sure they will have the same effect on the car... if the aftermarket ones don't flex too much instead of producing downforce.

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? I'm not arguing over anything, I'm just being a sarcastic jackass.

 

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It's all good... I'm kinda tuff to argue with anyway, I usually let it go and wait 'till it settles down. Then I can continue being my annoying self, ask too much questions and post whatever unrelated comments go through my head.

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all honesty i wouldnt go with a a replica wing unless it full CF, problems with the replicas is that they vibrate...im sure it still adds some kind of downforce.

my tie bar did stiffen up my suspension from the stock OZ suspension, i liked the difference a lot, i actually even did a write up on it, somehere on here...

but i have yet to get a sway bar, which i heard helps a lot also

 

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I've heard of some of those aftermarket wings being if equal if not better quality than OEM... and the one in particular that comes to mind doesn't even have a real CF middle part. It comes with a very high quality paint and clearcoat too.

But I still can't be sure if it will acheive it's function of creating a bit of downforce though... I wish these wings could be adjusted a bit. 2 or 3 degrees up or down would make a big difference. There's a section of road I always go to when I want to test how the car will react at high speeds (a section of highway with not much traffic, a small bend in the road and afairly good bumop over the small bridge in the midle of the turn). That's where I first noticed how the car felt really light... if I could do some tuning on one of these wings, I'd know if it worked or not the moment I went through that bend at high speed...

ModernRacer on here was thinking about making a motorized adjustable wing for the Lancer... I wonder if he still is working on that. It's been over a month since he forst talked about doing that. Since he's quite good with those projects, maybe he's gonna come up with an interesting solution...

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If you're lucky, you could find an adjustable evo7 wing. I was lucky enough to find one and I love the difference it makes in the stability of the car.

 

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I'm not familiar with how the EVO 7 wing looks... do you have a pic of your car somewhere? Also, I wonder how it would look on the RA...

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I'm not sure but the cerious performance all CF wing may be adjustable.