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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Engine braking is different, what you're talking about is just braking in gear. Engine braking involves using the slower movement of the engine relative to the transmission to slow the car. This is done by essentially holding the clutch at the engagement point when you go from a higher gear (say 3rd) to a lower gear (say 2nd).
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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Putting the car in neutral is the best thing you want to do if your going down hill or crusing down. Saves a bunch of gas and you still keep you speed without bad engine breaking.

WTH are you talking about when you say you have no control when your car is in Neutral bro? The car isnt' off so you have control over everything. if you want to speed up just rev match and shift into correct gear.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:04 AM
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How to engine brake: DON'T!

It is not illegal to shift your car into neutral as you are coming to a stop, which is what you should do.

Don't have any control in neutral??? Ummm, you can still steer, you can still use your brakes. So, if a deer jumps out in front of me, I doubt that I will want to accelerate into the deer.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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^ THANK YOU!!!! i noe you got a laugh out of guys post, he might need a refresher on driving a manual tranny
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FinestSoldier
Putting the car in neutral is the best thing you want to do if your going down hill or crusing down. Saves a bunch of gas and you still keep you speed without bad engine breaking.

WTH are you talking about when you say you have no control when your car is in Neutral bro? The car isnt' off so you have control over everything. if you want to speed up just rev match and shift into correct gear.
Why would you put your car into neutral if you're going downhill? You'll just end up using the brakes more than you need to as opposed to leaving it in gear and letting the transmission naturally maintain the speed. If you read the manual (at least I think it'll say it in a lancer manual), it's recommended to leave it in gear going downhill for this very reason.
I presume he means that if something went wrong (ie. someone was coming up very fast behind you, traffic suddenly stopped in front of you), you wouldn't have time to put it in gear, engage it and react. It's usually smart to keep the car in gear as long as possible.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Guys! engine braking are useful on deep slope, and I use it a lot of times.

Remember while the engine RPM may go upto 3000+ RPM, the car actually using the same amount of gas as idle. But, the real saving are your brakes. You don't have to use your brake as often.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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your car will not maintain speed if you leave it in gear due to engine breaking. If you put into neutral you will drop your rev's to idel which saves more gas. and btw breaks are way cheaper then a engine or tranny
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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That's funny cause my car is manual and it maintains speed when going downhill (as I originally said) in gear. Lower revs don't necessarily save gas, it has to do with the load on the engine. There is nothing wrong with leaving the car in gear and letting it do what it wants to do. It's also spelt brakes, not breaks.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Maybe you should take your own advice and "refresh" yourself on a manual tranny.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FinestSoldier
Putting the car in neutral is the best thing you want to do if your going down hill or crusing down. Saves a bunch of gas and you still keep you speed without bad engine breaking.

WTH are you talking about when you say you have no control when your car is in Neutral bro? The car isnt' off so you have control over everything. if you want to speed up just rev match and shift into correct gear.

I put the car in neutral only when I'm close to stopping to a red light. By control I don't mean just being able to brake or steer but to accelerate if you need to.
And real life unexpected occasion are far more complex and unpredictable than hitting a deer. If you want to cruise but don't want a lot of engine braking juste put it in 4-th gear.


I have a question for you guys (It may sound dumb but remember that I've been driving manual for 3 weeks total)
When you release the clutch is it better to keep the heel of your foot on the carpet to support your leg or no? Just wondering.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Personal preference.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That's funny cause my car is manual and it maintains speed when going downhill (as I originally said) in gear. Lower revs don't necessarily save gas, it has to do with the load on the engine. There is nothing wrong with leaving the car in gear and letting it do what it wants to do. It's also spelt brakes, not breaks.
Why do you have to correct my spelling, i type fast errors freaking happen, people who correct others errors just have no life sorry.

At the end of the day kid, its Personal preference. As long as you don't ride the clutch your good.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Because it's brakes not breaks. I'm sorry but if you're going to talk like you know about something, at least spell it right. I don't think someone who's posting on an online forum can accuse another person of having no life.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FinestSoldier
your car will not maintain speed if you leave it in gear due to engine breaking. If you put into neutral you will drop your rev's to idel which saves more gas. and btw breaks are way cheaper then a engine or tranny
The whole point of engine braking is to slow the car down on "DEEP" downhill. And, if you keep the engine RPM around 3000 RPM, how can you damage the engine or tranny.

Anyway, if you are not maintain speed while you are in gear, then you are not in "DEEP" downhill. In a way, I agree you may save a few cent of gas. And allow the car to curise a little longer.

And one more point, before there is ECU for engine. If you don't step on the gas paddle, you will be at minimum gas. So, no matter the engine is at idle or 3000 RPM, it use the same amount of gas. With the ECU for the engine, it may not be true any more. But, the saving is going to be very small.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FinestSoldier
Why do you have to correct my spelling, i type fast errors freaking happen, people who correct others errors just have no life sorry.

nice. you took a little dig at me.

All im saying is that if your words had switched letters like "thsi" (this) i wouldn't care.

But you talk like you know EVERYTHING and you also mispell alot of words when you're ranting. <--your favorite thing to do

It's just hard to take someone seriously when they "tiep lyke this and use big kar wurdz"

It's called self-pwnage. and you're good at it.
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