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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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manual all the way. cvt isnt that great, i mean its better than regular A/T but theres nothing like banging through gears with M/T.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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nothing matches the driving pleasure of a manual gearbox, I like the CVT for its quick up and down shifts though! and its a shame that they dont have a 6-speed manual on the Lancer
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Yes a six-speed gearbox would be amazing for the 08's. It sucks having the car at 3,500 RPMs driving at only 65 mph.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mitsu fan
Yes a six-speed gearbox would be amazing for the 08's. It sucks having the car at 3,500 RPMs driving at only 65 mph.

thats really one big drawback of the 5-speed on the GTS
bestthing about the CVT is that you would doing about 2,300 RPMs driving at 65 mph
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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The original clutch in my 1986 Porsche 944 lasted 20 years, 235K miles! I autocrossed and tracked the car, but I never "peeled out" or dragged it (not much point dragging a car with 150 HP, anyway). Granted, I never had to commute in stop -and-go traffic.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 04:44 AM
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man it revs all the way that high on the 5 speed? wow
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Anyway when your driving stick you have more control over the car. You feel more like a pilot. If you let go of the clutch too quick or too slow it will make a difference. I like challenging myself to make perfect shifts and downshifts. Driving the CVT I'd only press on the gas and turn the wheel. That's no fun to me.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsu fan
Yes a six-speed gearbox would be amazing for the 08's. It sucks having the car at 3,500 RPMs driving at only 65 mph.

i don't noe what 5spd you have but at 3500rpm im doing about 75 to 80mph in
5th gear??
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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as far as the argument goes with MT vs CTV
i’ve owned a full auto truck…a CTV mini…and two stick cars (in that order)
and i must say, i won’t go back to auto…i can’t…manual transmissions are just too enjoyable.
i think the main reason a lot of people bash manual saying it’s annoying, bad in traffic, and so on, is mostly because they have only tired it once and got frustrated…or they haven’t tried it at all. (i was the same at one point)
talking strictly about CTV now…yes, they are better than a traditional automatic transmission…but i find you get bored of them easily…
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by razo
as far as the argument goes with MT vs CTV
i’ve owned a full auto truck…a CTV mini…and two stick cars (in that order)
and i must say, i won’t go back to auto…i can’t…manual transmissions are just too enjoyable.
i think the main reason a lot of people bash manual saying it’s annoying, bad in traffic, and so on, is mostly because they have only tired it once and got frustrated…or they haven’t tried it at all. (i was the same at one point)
talking strictly about CTV now…yes, they are better than a traditional automatic transmission…but i find you get bored of them easily…
I drove manual from 2003 until May of this year. So yeah, I've tried manual. It's great for spirited driving, but I really hate it for around town driving.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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driving the CVT around in the upper speed range, i am sure 7th gear can be programed in there lol
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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No contest for me. 5-speed all the way

1. 91' Accord (auto) my first car. hand-me-down from my parents.
2. 01' Prelude (5 speed)
3. 02' Eclipse GT Spyder (5 speed)
4. 08' Lancer GTS (5 speed)
5. whatever it'll be, it'll be stick
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Are you sure about those numbers???

Originally Posted by mitsu fan
Yes a six-speed gearbox would be amazing for the 08's. It sucks having the car at 3,500 RPMs driving at only 65 mph.
'08 Lancer ES.

2750 RPM at 60 MPH

3000 RPM at 65 MPH

Both of those numbers seem pretty reasonable to me. Not that I wouldn't mind having a sixth gear.

Actually, I think a good solution for the Lancer would be to simply have somewhat taller 4th and 5th gears. In my opinion, both are too short. Granted, that gives more torque in those gears, but if I'm doing 65 and need more torque, I could always drop down to third.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Hey, sorry to bring back an old thread, but i was reading through an article on howstuffworks.com and came across this statement.

"In theory, a car with a CVT should reach 60 mph (100 km/hr) 25-percent faster than the same car with the same engine and a manual transmission [ref]. That's because the CVT converts every point on the engine's operating curve to a corresponding point on its own operating curve." - source

But keep in mind that says in theory, in real world test, it seems everyone is faster with manual. Maybe theres a way we can reprogram the cvt ecu to be faster instead of for economical? Of course it has a greater chance of breaking tho.

Last edited by Bladed; Jan 5, 2008 at 06:53 PM.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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yes. jus like with a auto, you can re program the shift points. alotta frag cars have auto.

but since this is a cvt its not technically shifting. so idk
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