How much has do u actually save is the question.

1500$ is alot of gas
thats almost 1500 litres over here.

So by saving a little bit on gas, do you think you'll be able to save 1500$ of gas?

I questioned that to. My parents have an accord hyrbid, paid 37000 for it when i could of spent 5 grand less. and got the equivalent v6.

to this date, i dont know if i made it back, fuel economy isnt ALOT better just a bit. like 1.5L/100km better.

Reason why people by hybrids are cuz its 10k$ more but uses half the gas. And usually those people drive ALOT of miles.

I highly doubt the 1500$ CAN price tag, with minimal gas mileage improvement, possible .1L/100km, that you will make it back.

Unless u drive ALOT.

Thats like choosing between two different meals and the other meal has like 10 more calories, but it tastes better.

Now if the 10 more calories meal didnt taste better to you ( manual) then u wouldnt get it.
But if it did, and its only 10 more calories i would eat it!

If you compare hybrids and normal cars where there is actually a large difference i.e prius, thats like eating a salad and a steak. soo very different comparison lol

not sure if u understand my messy analogy hehe

 

I dont care that I get 1 more MPG I care that in rush hour traffic I dont have to constantly change gears, clutch, brake, shift, shift, shift, clutch, down shift, brake, neutral............. And the like and that when I feel the need to pass some slow poke on the road I still have the main benefit I love about manual DOWNSHIFTING so drop to 4th pass tap my paddle twice to 6th and put it back in D all is well in the world

0-60 time means very little to me, 1/4 mile the same, every day drivability and comfort is a much bigger deal.

 

You don't really save that much, i give you that. But there is still a savings when you look at the overall cost, the warranty, and so forth when it comes to the Lancer which is the car in question. Sure, I could have gotten a Prius, Civic Hybrid, Camry Hybrid or a whatever greencar they got there. I know that I am saving some money. It's not the best. But those cars are ugly as ****.
But I am not chasin tailpipes with this car. I need a daily car. And this car has the tech and the LOOKS for the cost that no other manufacturer has.
I agree with Kwelity, 0-60mph means little as well the 1/4 mile run. I bought this car for the everyday driver. I am not tuning this car either. I want to keep it stock except for tinted windows, because eventually this Lancer is going for a trade in for the EVO X or the Raliiart version. Depends. This car is temporary for me.
Now, I have been driving the car ecomnically where it demands with the CVT and I am getting now, 26 mpg in the city. And 32 mpg on the highway. I have been peeping out my gas measures for the past 2 months and I have adjusted my driving habits to this economic transmission and I say, I have saved money per week. And now I am seeing what I am still banking on savings. I couldn't give you numbers on the savings because the numbers would be based on my day to day driving vs yours. But for me, I am saving. I would save more if i had some FUGLY Toyota Yaris or something, where you get 45/mpg city and 50/mpg highway. But who wants to roll in that??
The Lancer in my opinion, outshines the all the other Greencars when it comes to looks and 2nd place performance.
Feel me? That's why the CVT was originally on high end luxury cars, well not the CVT, perhaps DSG, but it's similar when you are looking at the convienence and comfort of having paddle shifters.
You know?

 

if your looking at it from a savings stand point... I agree the CVT doesn't make sense

now try and look at it from a dual purpose point.. you can comfort/no brain driving for the daily sleepy work grind... or you can smack paddles and play

for me it's purely a dual purpose thing.. and I guess I'm a little of a gadget *****

and I think PERSONALLY for me I would get WORSE mileage with the manual daily driving... I tend to wind it up a lil higher then I really need too ..etc.

 

^^^exactly I think many of you all are forgetting this a 153HP compact car and not a Evo X you arent going to win any races with this car but you will win some head turns and a very comfortable feature packed daily driving experience.

Appreciate this vehicle for what it is the car has great mod potential and what not but as of right now Lancer GTS's are stylish commuters vehicles with a butt load of gadgets.

 

heh.. I'll be racing mine... but autoX and TSD rally. after some power mods I might do the odd drag weekend. but I'm focusing on mid range power and handling. the dual personality for daily cruising is just a bonus

 

I guess I should have put street in front of races as I intend to do some auto-x for fun myself.

 

ha!... I have enough problems not getting into trouble with my F100.. definately making an effort to keep my exploits in an organized enviroment

 

Thanks.

 

heh.. well looks like I'm gonna be in a 5spd .. went to talk with the finance dept and unless by late sept early oct the price and or the interest rate drops the cvt is $15 a month over my self set budget

so... who's pestering RRM for a shortshifter first? LOL

 

^^ was thinking the same thing

 

The CVT was made to replace a regular automatic - it therefore saves you over 1L/100km if you compare with regular MT/AT fuel consumption ratios.

An auto usually gets worst gas mileage and in this case, the CVT gets better gm, with better performance for about the same price.

The CVT is not as performant as the manual, but isn't as far behind as a regular auto would be.



plus the gear ratios of the manual are better... gears 4,5 and 6 are slower on the CVT than gear 5 alone with the manual, and all other gears are also slower in the CVT's manual mode.. an MT would therefore pull away in 5th from a CVT in 4th, and that's not considering the extra weight of the CVT.. I did alot of research before gettig my MT.

 

Not sure what you mean by slower, taller shorter maybe?

The one good thing about the CVT gear ratios is that the possiblity to change them exists since they are not a preset gearset. Im sure there will be some kind of piggy back available to adjust the ratios to your liking. In fact even thinking that you can change them on the fly doesnt seem to be too far fetched since its software controlled. maybe have an "a" and "b" setting or a scramble setting

I am also wondering if "gears can be added" like maybe space them close and make 7? The way its looking is that ther are lots of possibilities with the CVT.

For all around driving, the CVT is the wise choice. I guess thats from me being older now, but you COULD NOT convince me to get auto back in my 20's then again there was no CVT. Regular autos do suck in my opinion.

I get my manual jollies from my race car oh and how awesome is downshifting the CVT!! I would love an exhaust just to hear it more haha

 

I dunno I still can't figure out why people argue aback and forth.. I drove both auto and manual .. street and race.. rally, drag, roadrace.. 115hp tercels to 800+ftlb big block buicks

honestly.. I'd rather have a kitted auto with a ratchet (or a paddle cvt LOL) then a stick shift. for me unless they change price a little (either car price or interest) the cvt is just a little out of my self set budget.. so I'll be picking up a manual

before any asks.. I daily drive a 64 ford F100 , that been hammered on an olds suspesion.. has a mild small block chevy and a kitted AUTO.. I love it

 

I would never hold the clutch in and coast. Everyone who does needs to learn how a transmission works. The engine needs to be turning the gears in order to supply the rest of the trans with oil to the bearings/gears. With the clutch in, the countershaft (in the oil) stops turning while the mainshaft, above the oil is still turning from the wheels....thus no oil getting onto the mainshaft resulting in premature wear/failure...

Advice....put it into neutral if you want to coast.